topic Re: Sketchup to Archicad - library parts in Libraries & objects

!Restored: Sketchup to Archicad - library parts

Anonymous — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:23:43 GMT

Hi,

I was told that it is easy to bring in Sketchup library objects into ArchiCAd. Just requires one step!!!

I haven't succeeded so far - Anyone have any ideas?

R

Re: Sketchup to Archicad - library parts

Thomas Holm — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:49:54 GMT

Select the component in Sketchup Pro, Export as 3D model in 3DS format.
In Archicad, download and install the 3DS In Add-on (Help>Archicad11 Goodies).
Open the 3DS file and Save as a Library Object. The procedure is described in the Help files. If you want more info, do a search in this forum.

Re: Sketchup to Archicad - library parts

Karl Ottenstein — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:02:21 GMT

If you are fortunate enough to be on a platform that supports the Google Earth Connectivity, then you can use File > File Special > Merge to convert a SketchUp file into a GDL object in one step, avoiding the 3DS and thus the need to own the pro version of SU.

Unfortunately... neither 3DS nor the connectivity approach convert textures properly all the time. The Merge approach gives a better 2D symbol.

For example, I saved an SU file that contained only the 'sawhorse barrier' component. I also exported it as 3DS. The attached image shows the plan symbol for each and a 3D axo. Note that the SU axo shows as darker on this side, but the stripe texture is aligned correctly. The 3DS import stripe is shifted.

The back sides are worse. The 3DS texture is much more shifted and the SketchUp/Merge has no texture (black).

But, the Merged plan symbol is better.

Interesting.

Karl

Re: Sketchup to Archicad - library parts

Karl Ottenstein — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:08:12 GMT

Here are the files for the objects shown, as well as the SU 6 file, in case someone else wants to investigate the problem with the texture mapping. 😉

I should add that I personally find using File Special > Merge an inconsistent and unusual way of creating a GDL object. Normally, a merge brings in elements. Typically, objects are created with File > Libraries and Objects > Open Object, which is where I would expect to find *.skp An exception is the 3DS import (a Goodie that shows up in the Design > Design Extras menu of all places), but we've been after GS for years to put that there with no success.

Karl

Re: Sketchup to Archicad - library parts

Karl Ottenstein — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:13:58 GMT

This screenshot shows the textures shown on the backside of the sawhorse. Really shifted texture for the 3DS import. Black for the Merged skp file.

Karl

Re: Sketchup to Archicad - library parts

Thomas Holm — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:11:10 GMT

Thanks Karl! That's really much more than I'd ever manage!

Re: Sketchup to Archicad - library parts

Anonymous — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 11:54:27 GMT

Karl wrote:
If you are fortunate enough to be on a platform that supports the Google Earth Connectivity, then you can use File > File Special > Merge to convert a SketchUp file into a GDL object in one step, avoiding the 3DS and thus the need to own the pro version of SU.

Unfortunately... neither 3DS nor the connectivity approach convert textures properly all the time. The Merge approach gives a better 2D symbol.

For example, I saved an SU file that contained only the 'sawhorse barrier' component. I also exported it as 3DS. The attached image shows the plan symbol for each and a 3D axo. Note that the SU axo shows as darker on this side, but the stripe texture is aligned correctly. The 3DS import stripe is shifted.

The back sides are worse. The 3DS texture is much more shifted and the SketchUp/Merge has no texture (black).

But, the Merged plan symbol is better.

Interesting.

Karl

Thats very intresting, i was allways hate archicad becose of lines (triangulate ones) And this is something that i didnt know !

Resopect man

Re: Sketchup to Archicad - library parts

Anonymous — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 18:56:15 GMT

NeckoFromSarajevo wrote:
Thats very intresting, i was allways hate archicad becose of lines (triangulate ones) And this is something that i didnt know !

Resopect man

I still get the diagonal lines (as shown in Karl's 3DS plan view above) when I use merge - is it just me or the models I've tried importing or does this happen for everyone?

Re: Sketchup to Archicad - library parts

Anonymous — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 08:15:53 GMT

Chris wrote:
NeckoFromSarajevo wrote:
Thats very intresting, i was allways hate archicad becose of lines (triangulate ones) And this is something that i didnt know !

Resopect man
I still get the diagonal lines (as shown in Karl's 3DS plan view above) when I use merge - is it just me or the models I've tried importing or does this happen for everyone?

I will try it right away and put answer here !

Yes, me too, im getting diagonal lies too?

Carl, how did u do that
Can u try with other object, create anything in Sk3tchup and try againg, PLZ

Re: Sketchup to Archicad - library parts

Karl Ottenstein — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:01:24 GMT

NeckoFromSarajevo wrote:
Carl, how did u do that
Can u try with other object, create anything in Sk3tchup and try againg, PLZ

Hmm. My earlier post was wrong / backwards as far as the 2D symbol. Sorry! 😞

I tried a park bench and a bed using SU components - and each had triangularization lines in the 2D symbol after the merge 😞

The bench had no triangularization when imported as 3DS. Just repeated with the sawhorse, and it is indeed the merge that shows the triangularization lines.

Karl

Re: Sketchup to Archicad - library parts

Anonymous — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 08:06:42 GMT

Karl wrote:
NeckoFromSarajevo wrote:
Carl, how did u do that
Can u try with other object, create anything in Sk3tchup and try againg, PLZ
Hmm. My earlier post was wrong / backwards as far as the 2D symbol. Sorry! 😞

I tried a park bench and a bed using SU components - and each had triangularization lines in the 2D symbol after the merge 😞

The bench had no triangularization when imported as 3DS. Just repeated with the sawhorse, and it is indeed the merge that shows the triangularization lines.

Karl

I hate this triangular lines !

Thx Karl for ur time !

Re: !Restored: Sketchup to Archicad - library parts

Richard Morrison — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 05:01:08 GMT

Now that the SketchUp AC12 converter is available (haven't seen any announcement), may be time to resurrect this thread. I have tried it, and the triangulation is pretty bad, and the orientation is rotated. What seems to work the best is to import into SketchUp, then save as .3DS file. Then use the Import 3DS Add-on to convert to AC library part. I am not clear why the SketchUp converter can't just do all this in one step. Am I missing something?

Re: !Restored: Sketchup to Archicad - library parts

Anonymous — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 20:50:03 GMT

I checked and the ArchICAD website still says coming soon for the sketch-up plugin for version 12. Am I missing something? Is there somewhere else to get the plugin?

Re: !Restored: Sketchup to Archicad - library parts

Richard Morrison — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:24:35 GMT

Looks like they pulled it. It wasn't ready for prime time, anyway.

Re: !Restored: Sketchup to Archicad - library parts

Anonymous — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:30:04 GMT

I did find the importer via the google earth, but it can only import sketch-up 6 and there are issues with all of the planes being triangulated.

hopefully they will get the sketchup 7 importer working soon & corretly. We find sketchup very usefull here as a concept design and object creation tool, but without the ability to bring the content into ArchiCAD cleanly it's not as helpfull as it could be.

Thanks

Re: !Restored: Sketchup to Archicad - library parts

Steve Jepson — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:38:46 GMT

http://www.graphisoft.com/products/archicad-solutions/su_plugin_download.html