topic Re: Simple box frame and casing in Libraries & objects

Simple box frame and casing

Anonymous — Wed, 24 May 2023 10:03:49 GMT

Hello,
Is it possible in AC 10 to configure a window like the W1 Casement 10
to show a simple box frame (no sill board) and casings on all edges
of the frame including the sill. In previous versions this was the
only configuration available but now it seems that this traditional
window construction (with sill board) is the only configuration available.
Thank you,
Peter Devlin

Re: Simple box frame and casing

Anonymous — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:56:38 GMT

I'm pretty sure that the new windows (in the US library anyway) cannot do the all mitered (picture frame) casing. You can omit the sill but not get the casing to wrap the bottom properly. You can turn off the sill and set the apron to match the casings. This leaves seams at the bottoms of the side casings but is otherwise what you are looking for.

You could also:

1. Grab a copy of the old one, rename it, and put it in your office or project library.

2. Turn off all the casings, make the frame thick and extend it past the wall. EDIT: Nope, the frame only thickens at the sides and top

3. Make a separate casing part and insert it with the AC11 part (with the casings and sills off of course).

Re: Simple box frame and casing

Anonymous — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:36:56 GMT

Hello Matthew,
I was assuming that I was just missing some button because
I could not believe that GS would not code a standard window
to show a frame and casing the way most national window
makers in the US like Anderson, Pella, and Marvin have been making
windows for many years. I, like you, have not been using Archicad
library parts for years. My casement window shows the
simple box frame but I was wondering if people who are compelled
to use AC library parts had found a way to get these windows
to show in the way most off the shelf windows are now made.
Your idea of getting a window from say the AC 8.1 library and
putting it into a loaded folder in a AC 10 project is the only way for
people using AC windows to show them as constructed in the modern way.
Thanks,
Peter Devlin

Re: Simple box frame and casing

Anonymous — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:24:49 GMT

I just checked the casement window in AC 8.1 and though
it can have a simple box frame the sash is very strange in section
and does not look the same as in the 2D symbol.
People are going to have to get the AC 6.5 or AC 7 version
of these windows to get them to show correctly. These libraries
are still available at the Graphisoft US Technical Resources site.
Peter Devlin

Re: Simple box frame and casing

Anonymous — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 02:37:40 GMT

I just checked the AC 10 INT library version of the W1 Casement 10
and it has a setting that draws a simple box frame and
picture frame casing. There is something strange about the sash.
The sash projects beyond the plane of the frame by default and
penetrates the frame by a considerable amount meaning
the sash is larger than the inside dimensions of the frame.
This cannot be intentional and I wonder if this was true
for this window in previous versions of the INT library.
Peter Devlin

Re: Simple box frame and casing

Geof Gainer — Fri, 04 Jan 2008 19:16:26 GMT

Another peculiar limitation with the new window tool: I can no longer resize or eliminate one side of the casing, such as when I have a window frame pushed up against an adjacent wall (pictured).

My workaround is to bury the window wall back in the display order, and make sure the adjacent walls overlapping it have a solid fill (not pictured).