topic Re: Can this object be a Wall ? in Libraries & objects

Can this object be a Wall ?

Anonymous — Tue, 30 Oct 2018 16:47:39 GMT

Hi everyone,

I'm a junior developper that just started in this company, i have no knowledge of archicad or gdl

So the company uses this custom object in archicad as if it was a wall, except (my boss says) because of how the wall is on the inside we can't make it as a "wall" or "composite wall" object, all we can do is make it as an "object" object.

The thing is, it looks like a wall, behaves like a wall but because it's an object and not a wall, I can't use the c++ api functions on it... (ACAPI_Element_GetRelations() for example, in order to get connected walls...)

So the question is, judging by the 2d section below, can you tell me if there is some way i can make this object into a wall ? maybe composite Wall or curtain wall ?
Or on the other hand, is there a list of rules my object needs to follow in order to be able to use the wall functions on it ?

My boss says it is the inside wooden panels (that are perpendicular to the wall itself) that prevent the object from being a wall.

coding the wall functions again for the object will take a tremendous amount of time and effort, and any evolution in the object will imply many code changes and introduce bugs so please help me find another way

Re: Can this object be a Wall ?

Lingwisyer — Wed, 31 Oct 2018 01:32:48 GMT

I am assuming that that is not a section of a wall fragment by the plan view of it.

As far as I know, the wall tool works by extruding a shape along the length of a wall. Hence your wall panel cannot be used as a wall as it is an extrusion along the vertical axis instead of the horizontal.

Have you tried representing the profile in plan only with a wall fill?

Ling.

Re: Can this object be a Wall ?

Anonymous — Wed, 31 Oct 2018 08:31:41 GMT

Lingwisyer, Thank you for your answer,

I don't want you supposing anything so here's a 3d view maybe it can help furthermore, i didn't understand what a section of a wall fragment by the plan view of it was so i can't answer you

Have you tried representing the profile in plan only with a wall fill?

Do you mean that I create a wall object that draws (as a drawing only) this section alongside the wall representation ?
As i said i have only been using archicad for a few weeks and only to test an addon i'm developping in c++ so i have no knowledge of archicad or Architecture terms.

Re: Can this object be a Wall ?

Barry Kelly — Wed, 31 Oct 2018 08:48:39 GMT

What Ling was saying is that you were not showing a section of the wall, but what you show is a plan view of the wall module.

As it is a module that seems to connect end to end then no, you can't do that with the wall tool.
As Ling said the wall tool can only extrude a profile along its length.

So you could create a wall that has the external claddings and the internal insulation (if there is any), but it can not place the vertical column and panels internally or the end connections.

These you could place separately as columns, but it will start to get messy trying to place columns inside all of your walls.

Barry.

Re: Can this object be a Wall ?

Anonymous — Wed, 31 Oct 2018 09:25:34 GMT

Ok thanks for clearing things out !

Well... Guess i'm stuck then... stuck with the tedious solution

Thanks everyone for your help