topic Re: Associative Height Markers In Plan in Libraries & objects

Associative Height Markers In Plan

Anonymous — Thu, 10 Aug 2006 01:59:50 GMT

Hi
Ive developed a series of parts that by using the gavity tool gives a reference level the slab, meshes, slabs & roofs. I am however not able
to make them associative that is if a slab is raised in level the part will
not move with it.

I was hoping to ge the part to work in a similar fashion to the dimensioning tool in archicad

Re: Associative Height Markers In Plan

David Larrew — Thu, 10 Aug 2006 02:50:06 GMT

You could try making the Objects as "Label" Objects. Though I don't know if you would be able to draw the Gravity parameters from within a "Label" - I've never tried it.

Re: Associative Height Markers In Plan

Anonymous — Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:13:15 GMT

Damien,
I am a bit unclear about what you want your object to do.
Is this object used to display information in 2D like a label
or the level dimension tool ?
You say "if a slab is raised in level the part will
not move with it. " Does your part have a 3D representation ?
You seem to be saying that if a roof or a slab changes elevation
that you want to have your object move up or down in 3D to
follow the elevation of the tool element associated with it.
If so, I believe you will have to script your object as an accessory.
or in the case of roofs script it alternatively as a skylight tool object.
There are slab accessories, roof accessories, but as far as I know
there are no mesh accessories so this is a problem.
Peter Devlin

Re: Associative Height Markers In Plan

Anonymous — Thu, 10 Aug 2006 04:04:17 GMT

Sorry Peter i could have explained myself better

the tool reads the the toplevel of the slab say 2572mm above ground level & prints this figure + the brick coursing height that 2572mm represents (30c)

if the slab is lifted 2c to 2743mm above ground level i was hoping to get the part to reflect these changes

Re: Associative Height Markers In Plan

Anonymous — Thu, 10 Aug 2006 04:16:57 GMT

Damien,
Doesn't the level dimension tool do what you want.
If you change the elevation of a slab, a roof, or the surface of
a mesh or it's elevation, the level elevation tool reflects these changes.
Peter Devlin

Re: Associative Height Markers In Plan

Anonymous — Thu, 10 Aug 2006 04:54:19 GMT

peter

this is exactly what i am attempting to achieve, a part like the level dimension tool were i a can take the numberic value & convert it into brick or block coursing heights as well as manipulate the figure to add a datam height to the dimension level provided

in essence i have the part working however but it is not accociative, like the level dimension tool, once i have inserted it once it picks up the height of the slab but if the slab is elevated the calculations in the part remain at its original level & i have to reinsert the part

Re: Associative Height Markers In Plan

Anonymous — Thu, 10 Aug 2006 05:13:12 GMT

Hello Damien,
The only thing I can suggest is, even if it is a 2D part,
you may have to script it as an accessory object
or maybe a label because accessory objects are associative with
with the tool elements they are designed to detect.
and change when the tool element changes,
unlike an ordinary library part.
If you look at the parameters and the scripts
of one of the accessory objects you will notice
there are specialized obligatory parameters
associated with each accessory subtype that
allows the accessory to access certain values
for the element it is designed to associate with.
Peter Devlin

Re: Associative Height Markers In Plan

Anonymous — Thu, 10 Aug 2006 05:23:34 GMT

thanks peter

unfortunately ive have never heard of an accessory object before could you give me some clarification on what they are &
where i could find one to access the script

thanks

Re: Associative Height Markers In Plan

Anonymous — Thu, 10 Aug 2006 18:17:10 GMT

Hello Damien,
In order to answer your question I need to know what
version of Archicad you are using.
BTW, it would be helpful if you would put the usual
info about platform, version, etc in your signature.
Thanks,
Peter Devlin

Re: Associative Height Markers In Plan

TomWaltz — Thu, 10 Aug 2006 18:26:24 GMT

David wrote:
You could try making the Objects as "Label" Objects. Though I don't know if you would be able to draw the Gravity parameters from within a "Label" - I've never tried it.

David's right. A custom label object should do this extremely simply. It would require some GDL knowledge. If you do now know how yourself, there are a number of people out there for hire who do.

Re: Associative Height Markers In Plan

Anonymous — Thu, 10 Aug 2006 19:08:43 GMT

Hello Damien,
You might be interested in this thread.
http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=38323&highlight=wall+heighth+height+label#38323
It contains a discussion about custom labels and accessories.
Peter Devlin

Re: Associative Height Markers In Plan

Anonymous — Fri, 11 Aug 2006 00:03:54 GMT

DAVID PETER & TOM

THANKS VERY MUCH THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR
WILL HAVE BRUSH UP ON SCRIPTING LABELS BUT HAVE ESSENTIALLY
FOUND THE ANSWER

THANKS AGAIN