topic Re: BASIC STORY MARKER in Libraries & objects

BASIC STORY MARKER

Frank Beister — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:18:35 GMT

Can anyone tell me, where I can find the BASIC STORY MARKER-object? After a "longer" search for the new place of the common markers I can find there only the ones for details and the FT splittet in two: F and T-markers.

Re: BASIC STORY MARKER

TomWaltz — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:04:12 GMT

I tried using "Open by Subtype" and was able to locate it in the US library.

Re: BASIC STORY MARKER

Frank Beister — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:36:00 GMT

Where do you open "by subtype"? I still have to search all folders, if I go to "open library part" and choose story marker.

Can you tell me the path in US library, Tom? This might give me a hint. Thanks.
(I know, had tried to open it in beta period. And this caused AFAIR a crash. But I haven't saved my reports)

Re: BASIC STORY MARKER

TomWaltz — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:41:53 GMT

File > GDL Objects > Open Objects by SubType...

Interestingly it was shown as being in:
Local_Disk:Applications:Graphisoft:ArchiCAD 10:Support:ArchiCADResources.framework:rfs:Basic Story Marker.gsm

Re: BASIC STORY MARKER

Frank Beister — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:06:28 GMT

So different shouldn't be US to GER/INT, isn't it? I searched in the support folder, because the folders there are linked in the library manager, but I haven't found a GSM like you do. Hmmm. Hidden? I have to go via SEARCH. Strange.

Re: BASIC STORY MARKER

TomWaltz — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:26:13 GMT

This is my Open by SubType Menu

Re: BASIC STORY MARKER

Anonymous — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:23:13 GMT

This is very worrisome.
It appears that Graphisoft's localization subcontractors
are allowed to strip out functionality at their whim.
Frank's GER/INT version is missing the "Open Objects by Subtype" option.

Frank, I notice that your file menu is in English. How can that be
since it is the German/International version ?
Peter Devlin

Re: BASIC STORY MARKER

TomWaltz — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:52:29 GMT

Peter wrote:
This is very worrisome.
It appears that Graphisoft's localization subcontractors
are allowed to strip out functionality at their whim.
Frank's GER/INT version is missing the "Open Objects by Subtype" option.

It may not be. Maybe it's controlled in the Work Environment?

Re: BASIC STORY MARKER

Frank Beister — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 20:14:58 GMT

Sorry for the mixed languages. I run both parallel. GER is full translated. And second I run the INT version to get familar with the english "translations" of the menu titles. I tried to open the marker in both (GER and INT). In both menus I don't get an "open by subtype". Maybe I am missing a switch in the preferences as the expanded calculation menu switch in AC9.
But anyway. The GSM should be in the support/resources folder. And I can't see it there. As the object works in the sections it has to be there. Maybe my MacOS X settings are "wrong" and don't show hidden files.

Re: BASIC STORY MARKER

Thomas Holm — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 21:11:59 GMT

Open Object by Subtype...

Found it. It's the sixth command from the left in the Edit GDL Library Parts Toolbar.
AC10 INT Build 817

Re: BASIC STORY MARKER

David Maudlin — Tue, 13 Jun 2006 02:09:32 GMT

F. wrote:
I tried to open the marker in both (GER and INT). In both menus I don't get an "open by subtype". Maybe I am missing a switch in the preferences as the expanded calculation menu switch in AC9.
But anyway. The GSM should be in the support/resources folder. And I can't see it there. As the object works in the sections it has to be there. Maybe my MacOS X settings are "wrong" and don't show hidden files.

F. Beister:

I believe you will need to do two things to be able to open this object.

First: Go to Work Environment>Command Layout Schemes>Menus and change the left pop up menu to "All commands in alphabetical order", then scroll down to "Open Object by Subtype...". This should allow you to add this command to your current menu scheme. I don't know why it is excluded from your Work Environment, as it has been around as long as subtypes have been around.

Second: Use this new command to find and open the "Basic Story Marker" as Tom spelled out above (I was able to open the part this way). This is one of the parts built into the application (like some of the basic section markers) so it does not reside in a standard library folder structure. There may be some way to find it via the OS, but it would not be a typical procedure.

If you need more information, please let us know.

HTH

David

Re: BASIC STORY MARKER

Frank Beister — Tue, 13 Jun 2006 06:39:55 GMT

Thanks David. This was the solution. I don't know how this could happen. I am very shure that I haven't deactivated this command. It's about GDL. I wouldn't do this. 😉

Does this realy exists since AC8? Haven't seen this anytime. Maybe it was deactivated per default in AC8 and I haven't omitted to do any installtion with "import Profile".

As I saw in the library manager, that there are some built in libraries I suggested to find it there. I thought that they are maybe hidden or encapsulated in lcf. I was confused, because Tom posted the file name, That he found it by a file manager. Now I see he had it from the dialog window. The object seem to be zipped in a proprietary format.

Thanks again.

P.S. I hope there are not more menu item slumbering in my work environment. BTW is there a menu command for mirroring elements in the floor plan?

Re: BASIC STORY MARKER

Anonymous — Tue, 13 Jun 2006 06:54:37 GMT

F. wrote:
BTW is there a menu command for mirroring elements in the floor plan?

Depending on your localization it is under Snow White > Fairest > Mirror or Queen > Jealous > Mirror

Just don't eat the apple or your Mac will go to sleep for a thousand years.

Re: BASIC STORY MARKER

Frank Beister — Tue, 13 Jun 2006 07:36:18 GMT

Re: BASIC STORY MARKER

Anonymous — Fri, 13 Oct 2006 16:15:28 GMT

And for those of us crippled by not using Macs,

I dug around and found it here:

C:\Program Files\Graphisoft\ArchiCAD 10\ArchiCAD.DLL\rfs\Basic Story Marker.gsm

Not exactly readily accessed.

-Nathan