topic Re: Windows and Doors vs Objects in AC 10 in Libraries & objects

Windows and Doors vs Objects in AC 10

Anonymous — Wed, 24 May 2023 10:46:59 GMT

Hello,
With AC 10's new way of displaying the floor plan as a littoral
cutplane through a story, if doors and windows are placed
in slanted, double slanted, or battered walls the doors and windows,
if projection is enabled, show as they would if one sawed off the wall
at the cutplane level and looked down on the wall.
Doors and windows show trim faces and other detail normally
only seen in elevation.

AC must get the information for displaying such things from
the 3D model. I say this because I have some doors and windows
I made in AC 6.5 who's 2D scripts have no 3rd dimension information
yet they display just like AC 10 windows and doors.

I placed an instance of the AC 10 object "Architectural Column"
that has a round column sitting on a square impost to see if
AC 10 objects would display the same way that doors and windows do.
This object's 2D symbol was just a circle without the square impost
showing below. I checked a few more objects and concluded that
only windows, doors, and Archicad tool elements show this behavior.

I notice that there is a new global variable called "GLOB_CUTPLANES_INFO [4]"
that gets the floor plan cutplane settings from the project.
This information would be necessary for developers to write 2D scripts
that would show how objects look if cut off by the floor plan cutplane.

But why would this be needed if AC 10 can get information
from the 3D model of doors and windows which are GDL objects ?
If AC can do it for doors and windows why not for any GDL object
that has a 3D script ?

Thank you,
Peter Devlin

Re: Windows and Doors vs Objects in AC 10

TomWaltz — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 21:42:17 GMT

Peter wrote:
But why would this be needed if AC 10 can get information
from the 3D model of doors and windows which are GDL objects ?
If AC can do it for doors and windows why not for any GDL object
that has a 3D script ?

My suspicion is that it is the classic "if we had more time/resources, we would have" response.

Re: Windows and Doors vs Objects in AC 10

Anonymous — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 21:55:11 GMT

Hello Tom,
Do you think that if it is a matter of time and resources that
GS might get around to it one of these days or will they
just give us the new global and forget it ?
Peter Devlin

Re: Windows and Doors vs Objects in AC 10

TomWaltz — Tue, 11 Jul 2006 00:47:01 GMT

I don't know.... maybe in a future release? (AC11, 12, 13, etc)

Re: Windows and Doors vs Objects in AC 10

James Murray — Tue, 11 Jul 2006 15:28:30 GMT

Peter wrote:
Do you think that if it is a matter of time and resources that GS might get around to it one of these days or will they just give us the new global and forget it?

I would guess it was a plan window performance decision. They decided they could handle 3D images of the doors and windows, but if it was on by default in all the objects, performance would suffer. (As if all the 2D scripts were PROJECT2s.)

We'll see more going forward (Solid Ops display???), as the plan window becomes more 3D.