topic Re: how make lib parts live with dim in s/e in Libraries & objects

how make lib parts live with dim in s/e

Erika Epstein — Wed, 24 May 2023 10:48:04 GMT

In the section/elevation windows, non-graphisoft parts won't dimension live.
I was wondering if any knows why and what could be added to a script to make it live.

By live I mean when I snap a dimension to a node on an object, if the object is moved, the dimension will follow.
thanks
Erika

Re: how make lib parts live with dim in s/e

__archiben — Thu, 10 Nov 2005 02:44:45 GMT

Erika wrote:
In the section/elevation windows, non-graphisoft parts won't dimension live.

erika

i think it's less to do with who's made the object and more as to whether or not it includes scripted HOTSPOT nodes rather than just leaving archiCAD to generate nodes at polygonal corners . . . i may be wrong . . .

~/archiben

Re: how make lib parts live with dim in s/e

Aussie John — Thu, 10 Nov 2005 03:18:30 GMT

Editable hotspots ( green diamond type) are always associative for dimensions.
Actually they dont need to be editable but have the ID number associated with editable hotspots.

Re: how make lib parts live with dim in s/e

Erika Epstein — Thu, 10 Nov 2005 06:52:51 GMT

Ben and JOhn,
You are correct, editable hotspots always give live dimensions in both plan and section/elevation.

I am still puzzled by the behavior of doors or windows being different as to live dimensioning in plan from s/e. In plan dimensions to the edges of the door/win are live dimensions. These same corners in 3D are not. The plan nodes are not the tell-tale diamond of the editable hotspots.

Why then doesn't the same hold true in s/e when dimensioned are attached to the corners of the openings? Are the plan nodes a kind of editable hotspot that doesn't sport the tell-tale diamond appearance?
The doors and windows I tested this on were both graphisoft and 3rd-party ones.

Wouldn't it be good if when you change the height of a door or window that its dimension adjust with the it?

Re: how make lib parts live with dim in s/e

Aussie John — Thu, 10 Nov 2005 08:14:01 GMT

Erika
2D associative hotspots were a feature of doors and windows long before 3D editable hotspots where just a twinkle in the eye of the developer, so I am guessing door, windows and other 2d elements use a different approach to the hotspot system.

Re: how make lib parts live with dim in s/e

Erika Epstein — Thu, 10 Nov 2005 08:17:16 GMT

thanks again John

Re: how make lib parts live with dim in s/e

Anonymous — Sun, 13 Nov 2005 20:40:10 GMT

The answer is very easy
Imagine simple GDL object - box AxBxZZYZX

Note You should enter new parameter (in addition to basic A & B) -ZZYZX (exactly the name zzyzx !!!)

The 3D script will look like this

BLOCK a,b,zzyzx

HOTSPOT 0,0,0
HOTSPOT a,0,0
HOTSPOT a,b,0
HOTSPOT 0,b,0

HOTSPOT 0,0,zzyzx
HOTSPOT a,0,zzyzx
HOTSPOT a,b,zzyzx
HOTSPOT 0,b,zzyzx

Hotspots should be placed exactly in object corner positions (a,b,xxyzx)

All dimensions will be editable from 3D view

Note that even on 2D view hotspots shoud be placed into these points - otherwise object willn't be ediotable by drag&drop

Why 'non'-graphisoft developers doesn't sometimes follow this rule ? - perhaps they simply doný know it or doesn't care about 3D window editing.

For example I done more then 300 different objects - from simple ones t overy-very complicated ones (150-200 kB program text) - but I also offen don't put featured 3D hotspots

Hope this answer will find You well