topic Re: Canted wall w/ window workaround in Libraries & objects

Canted wall w/ window workaround

Anonymous — Wed, 24 May 2023 10:48:00 GMT

Hello, I've looked at suggestions made for creating windows in canted walls and I'm having trouble getting the correct results.

Originally, I used a canted wall and found that it's reference wall's windows were only appearing as openings.. So then I copied the reference wall and saved it as a GDL, went into the 3d script and added the cant angle to ROTX. There are two prompts for ROTX, so I tried adding the angle to both. What I end up with is a perpendicular wall w/ a canted window....exactly the opposite problem of what I started out with, and still not right. Any advice for me? I'm new to this GDL stuff... perhaps I'm modifying the wrong line in the script?

Re: Canted wall w/ window workaround

Anonymous — Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:16:50 GMT

Provide some screens, files, etc.

Re: Canted wall w/ window workaround

Anonymous — Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:54:39 GMT

I'm posting pdfs of the 3D script, where I added the rotation angle of 93.7.

also, the resulting model... a straight wall w/ a canted window.

and an image of the condition that I'm working with.

But it seems like I'm only able to post one attachment at a time.

Thanks,

Re: Canted wall w/ window workaround

Anonymous — Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:56:03 GMT

the entry of the window inclination in the 3D script...

Re: Canted wall w/ window workaround

Anonymous — Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:57:01 GMT

the resulting model...

Re: Canted wall w/ window workaround

Anonymous — Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:59:01 GMT

the condition in question...
So far, it's been modeled using the canted wall in Wall Accessories. But the windows from the reference wall do not show up.

Re: Canted wall w/ window workaround

gerd — Wed, 23 Nov 2005 14:45:59 GMT

jackie wrote:
the condition in question...
So far, it's been modeled using the canted wall in Wall Accessories. But the windows from the reference wall do not show up.

this is the normal behaviour. (of course it is not nice)
but there is a solution for the problem:
make a small wall just for the window and place it on the position of the hole, put the window in and you will see your window in the hole. but it is not rotated like the wall.
put a rotx ... command at the beginning of the window's 3d skript and it should work. (maybe there will be problems, if a del top command is used in the script)

hope it helps
best regards, gerd

Re: Canted wall w/ window workaround

Anonymous — Wed, 23 Nov 2005 17:32:44 GMT

That works! Thank you.
One more question... It seems like there is only one material choice for canted walls. Is there a way to designate different materials for the two sides and ends?

thanks again,
jackie

Re: Canted wall w/ window workaround

Dwight — Wed, 23 Nov 2005 20:35:30 GMT

The fastest way to place a window in a tilted wall is to use an SEO using two identical roof planes.

Not elegant in plan, but fine in 3D.

Re: Canted wall w/ window workaround

Anonymous — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 14:48:04 GMT

i tried using the workaround by drawing a wall and placing a window in it. it allowed me to do that, but then i couldn't drag the window and the wall to be inside of the canted wall. i could drag the window individually (which i thought was strange), but it didn't cut a hole in the wall. should i just use roof planes to make my canted wall and forget about the canted wall accessory all together? thanks

Re: Canted wall w/ window workaround

Dwight — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:15:52 GMT

Using two roof planes in a conventional wall, use SEO to trim to the angle you require.

Re: Canted wall w/ window workaround

Anonymous — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:12:39 GMT

i think i understand, but something didn't work. i drew an really thick wall. then drew two roof planes at the angle that i want for the cant of the wall. i tried to do the seo with the intersection mode. it just completely erased the wall (the roof planes were both bigger on all sides of the wall). then i tried doing wall trim at a time, one with downwards extrusion and the other with upwards, so that i could get the sliver in between. it still didn't work. did i totally miss the boat on this?

Re: Canted wall w/ window workaround

Dwight — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:35:55 GMT

it appears so.

here's another view of the assembly.

Re: Canted wall w/ window workaround

Anonymous — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:45:27 GMT

marta wrote:
i think i understand, but something didn't work. i drew an really thick wall. then drew two roof planes at the angle that i want for the cant of the wall. i tried to do the seo with the intersection mode. it just completely erased the wall (the roof planes were both bigger on all sides of the wall). then i tried doing wall trim at a time, one with downwards extrusion and the other with upwards, so that i could get the sliver in between. it still didn't work. did i totally miss the boat on this?

marta

Your attempt with intersection mode got me thinking. Using Intersect in SEO means your canted wall will remain only where both the fat vertical wall AND the sloping roof co-exist, so if you are using intersect SEO use a single roof exactly where you want your canted wall. Turn the roof's layer off - you should get your result.

Of course if you want different slopes inside and outside your wall, two cutting roofs will be necessary.

Re: Canted wall w/ window workaround

Anonymous — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:30:23 GMT

i'm not sure what in the world i am doing wrong. i've attached an image of the way i'v been trying to do it. the big grey thing is the fat wall with the two planes being roofs. i need to end up with the sliver in between the roofs. i've tried everything i can think of. if anybody can help, you'd be helping me out so much! thanks

Re: Canted wall w/ window workaround

Dwight — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:48:11 GMT

SEO the lower roof "subtraction with downward extrusion"

SEO the upper roof "subtraction with upward extrusion."

Re: Canted wall w/ window workaround

Anonymous — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:56:32 GMT

i've tried that so many times. each with different combinations, and orders of picking things. the closest i can come to getting the wall is this image. i have even tried making the roof plane on the left side so thick that it totally covers up the part of the wall i don't want.

Re: Canted wall w/ window workaround

Anonymous — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:58:20 GMT

Are you selecting the wall as the target, then deselecting it before selecting the roof as the operator?

Re: Canted wall w/ window workaround

Anonymous — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:00:25 GMT

yep, the wall is the target. then deselect and select the roof only as the operator...

Re: Canted wall w/ window workaround

Anonymous — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:07:37 GMT