topic Converting Favorite Objects from AC9 to AC9SE in Libraries & objects

Converting Favorite Objects from AC9 to AC9SE

Anonymous — Wed, 24 May 2023 10:47:58 GMT

I am attempting to save a favorites file that is using the new AC9SE library. I am starting an existing Favorite File that is referencing the AC9 library.

I am adding the Favorite object (or door or window, in this case a W Fixed window). After alt-clicking the properties I am opening the object and moving to the AC9SE object, in this case the W Fixed SE9. Then I Ctrl-Alt-Click window and "hit" OK.

The window is now changed. Looking at the 3D, I get this warning:

"Polygon is degenerated at line 102 of file wa_frame_us_10 SE9.gsm."

Can anyone direct me as to how to fix this. I may have this same problem with the other 18 favorite windows that I want to "convert". (I also have 18 favorite doors I would like to Update to the AC9SE.

I know to redifine favorites and to re-save favorites.

Re: Converting Favorite Objects from AC9 to AC9SE

Karl Ottenstein — Sat, 10 Dec 2005 17:55:14 GMT

Jay,

You cannot redefine a Favorite (or a placed object) as you are doing with the US SE9 library. The parameters and behavior of the parts have changed and so parameter transfer from an earlier library to the newer one will not result in something usable in most cases involving windows and doors, which GS heavily reprogrammed.

What you are experiencing is what would have happened with the original SE 9 library (library parts same names as old 9 parts) if the SE 9 library had been loaded instead of the 9 library. Same thing as parameter transfer - and windows and doors would have been garbage.

You've discovered a subtlety of the 'new' (October) US SE9 library. The new version can load alongside the 9, 8.1 and other libraries just fine because of the renamed objects - and automatically matches earlier SE9 parts because of a common internal ID - but using parameter transfer will give bad results as you have seen. This is really no different than if you took a 6.5 window and tried to parameter transfer into a 9.0 window. Unpredictable.

I have heard from others offline of their frustration with this and can feel your pain. 😉 But, there is no simple way to redefine your Favorites in this case.

On the bright side, the word is the the SE9 library is the basis for the AC10 library, so we can only hope that time spent defining Favorites based on SE9 will be an investment that continues to pay off with AC10.

Karl

Re: Converting Favorite Objects from AC9 to AC9SE

Erika Epstein — Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:38:41 GMT

Where is the best place to send/post problems with the latest SE library?

Re: Converting Favorite Objects from AC9 to AC9SE

Karl Ottenstein — Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:52:56 GMT

Erika wrote:
Where is the best place to send/post problems with the latest SE library?

These should be sent to GSUS tech support. (This is a US library.)

Since SE is the basis for the AC 10 library, the more reports the better things will be for 10.

I think that bigger issues/workarounds should be posted in these forums though so that others can find them. For example, while doing two trainings recently, I discovered that the Wall Accessories panel/moulding object did not display the UI properly - the numbers indicating what parameters did what (e.g., height of chair rail, etc.) did not display. Closing and restarting ArchiCAD works around that issue.

Cheers,
Karl

Re: Converting Favorite Objects from AC9 to AC9SE

Erika Epstein — Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:19:08 GMT

Thanks Karl.