topic Re: custom panel door not built in curtain wall in Libraries & objects

custom panel door not built in curtain wall

Anonymous — Wed, 24 May 2023 08:43:43 GMT

I am trying to insert a door different that the ones "built in" in the options of the curtain wall, but when I tried the custom panel turns the doors 90 degree on x axis.
Any ideas to solvet it ?

Re: custom panel door not built in curtain wall

Lingwisyer — Fri, 24 Aug 2018 01:21:54 GMT

As in your door panel lies flat on the x/y axis? Did you create the door panel in plan? If not, then that would be the cause. I am having no issues with custom doors in my curtain walls.

Ling.

Re: custom panel door not built in curtain wall

Anonymous — Fri, 24 Aug 2018 06:19:34 GMT

I create the ensemble, wall+door, in an xz plane, because as far as I know to create the door in a xy plan you first need to lie in that plan the wall that contains that door and as far as I know you only can do that if the set is a morph.

Re: custom panel door not built in curtain wall

Barry Kelly — Fri, 24 Aug 2018 07:54:38 GMT

Custom doors, windows and panels are best created in the XY plane - i.e. lying flat on the floor.
You can use slabs, walls, roof, morphs, etc., to create them.

If you want the exact size you can draw a fill on the elevation and copy & paste that onto the plan.
But you should find your custom object will re-scale automatically to suite the door, window or curtain wall panel size that you choose.
However you don't want them to re-scale too much as they may distort, so getting the correct size is a good idea.

Barry.

Re: custom panel door not built in curtain wall

Anonymous — Fri, 24 Aug 2018 08:00:38 GMT

But can I lay down a wall in the plane xy?

Re: custom panel door not built in curtain wall

Barry Kelly — Fri, 24 Aug 2018 08:20:36 GMT

darwinland wrote:
But can I lay down a wall in the plane xy?

You don't need to.

Barry.

Re: custom panel door not built in curtain wall

Anonymous — Fri, 24 Aug 2018 08:27:08 GMT

Can you clarify how can I draw a door in the xy plane to afterwards convert in a curtain wall panel?
Thank you

Re: custom panel door not built in curtain wall

Barry Kelly — Fri, 24 Aug 2018 08:34:16 GMT

darwinland wrote:
Can you clarify how can I draw a door in the xy plane to afterwards convert in a curtain wall panel?
Thank you

You just model it to the size you want.
If you want to get it exact then draw a fill on the curtain wall panel in elevation.
Copy and paste that fill to the floor plan.
Use that fill as the extents to model you new panel.

But remember the custom panel will resize to suit the curtain wall panel as well.

Barry.

Re: custom panel door not built in curtain wall

Lingwisyer — Fri, 24 Aug 2018 09:06:30 GMT

Just think of it as when in plan, you are looking at the door from the inside. While thinking along those lines, model your door leaf using the basic modelling tools on the floor plan then select the lot and save it as a custom door leaf.

Ling.

Re: custom panel door not built in curtain wall

Anonymous — Fri, 24 Aug 2018 13:57:03 GMT

Barry wrote:

darwinland wrote:
Can you clarify how can I draw a door in the xy plane to afterwards convert in a curtain wall panel?
Thank you
You just model it to the size you want.
If you want to get it exact then draw a fill on the curtain wall panel in elevation.
Copy and paste that fill to the floor plan.
Use that fill as the extents to model you new panel.

when you say to model it, you mean to model like a morph? or can I build a door laid on the xy plane of the ground?

But remember the custom panel will resize to suit the curtain wall panel as well.

Barry.

Re: custom panel door not built in curtain wall

Barry Kelly — Mon, 27 Aug 2018 01:12:03 GMT

darwinland wrote:
when you say to model it, you mean to model like a morph? or can I build a door laid on the xy plane of the ground?

You can model it with any of the 3D tools.
It will need to lay flat in the floor plane.
Zero height is the front surface of the door as yo look at it in elevation.
Anything modelled above zero height will be the inside of the door, and anything below zero height will be outside the door.
You can model as much detail as you need, or it can just be a flat slab.

Here is a help files for a custom door leaf - basically the same for curtain wall panels.

https://helpcenter.graphisoft.com/user-guide/72807/

Maybe some of these others will help as well.

Custom shaped door opening.
https://helpcenter.graphisoft.com/knowledgebase/25570/

Custom window.
https://helpcenter.graphisoft.com/knowledgebase/25564/

Barry.

Re: custom panel door not built in curtain wall

Anonymous — Mon, 27 Aug 2018 06:43:33 GMT

https://helpcenter.graphisoft.com/user-guide/72807/

in reference to this link, I understand that you can only draw single leafs of doors. My problem is that I need to by a pair door, one hinged leaf and the other fixed. Is that possible, because in the example of the link they only draw a leaf without fixed sahs. If I need a door+window sahs, how does Archicad understand that one is hinged and the other fixed?

Re: custom panel door not built in curtain wall

Barry Kelly — Mon, 27 Aug 2018 07:05:31 GMT

Each panel of the curtain wall you can replace with a custom panel.
This will just give you a fixed panel.

Or you can also use a double or single door or window, and in there you can select a custom door or window panel.

With the double leaf door or window, I don't think they give you the option of having one open and one fixed.

I would say you would have to place two custom panels next to each other and then make the curtain wall frame in between invisible (delete it)
You can place a custom door next to a custom window or just a standard fixed custom panel.

Maybe if you can show an image of what you want that will help.

I rarely use curtain walls so maybe someone else can give some more detail.

Barry.

Re: custom panel door not built in curtain wall

Anonymous — Mon, 27 Aug 2018 08:40:16 GMT

Thank you, now I understand. You can get individual panels for the preset doors types in the library.
Regards