topic Re: Placing "zone-like" fills into objects in Libraries & objects

Placing "zone-like" fills into objects

TomWaltz — Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:22:43 GMT

In placing zones on plans, and using the background colors, it got me thinking:
Could a regular object (like a chair or a rectangle on a diagram) have a non-pen dependent color, set only by RBG values, like the Zone Fills do?

I could not find anything in the GDL manual that mentions it. Has anyone tried this?

Re: Placing "zone-like" fills into objects

Link — Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:44:10 GMT

Being somewhat of a GDL dunce, I don't dabble in this forum too much, but I do know that it is possible to give an RGB color to a fill in PlotMaker.

I have wished to GS that they allow us a similar functionality in ArchiCAD - no news yet!

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Placing "zone-like" fills into objects

TomWaltz — Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:46:08 GMT

Link wrote:
Being somewhat of a GDL dunce, I don't dabble in this forum too much, but I do know that it is possible to give an RGB color to a fill in PlotMaker.

I KNEW I had seen that somewhere....

Re: Placing "zone-like" fills into objects

Frank Beister — Thu, 01 Sep 2005 06:41:27 GMT

AFAIK there is no way in AC to use any other than the 256 colors of the pen set. There are a few REQUEST and REQ functions to "ask" for the best fitting PEN to a color RGB-value, but it returns given colors and does not define them.

The only way to use gdl defined colors is to define custom materials. Bernhard Binder wrote in 2002 an object wich had a smooth color changing by using this technic. But if you use project2 3,270,2 I think AC will try to use only pens of the set. No way to trick.

Re: Placing "zone-like" fills into objects

gerd — Fri, 02 Sep 2005 11:43:28 GMT

to find out, if there is a hidden command in the coloured fill of the zone stamp, you can drag a zone stamp from floor plan to 2d-skript.

you get a simple fill with a similar color pen
(and of course a 'call' for the stamp...)

but if you define a material by yourselve, use it on a object and save the 3d window as pmk file, the rgb fills with your own colours are saved (not with similar pens)

Re: Placing "zone-like" fills into objects

TomWaltz — Fri, 02 Sep 2005 13:37:38 GMT

F. wrote:
AFAIK there is no way in AC to use any other than the 256 colors of the pen set. There are a few REQUEST and REQ functions to "ask" for the best fitting PEN to a color RGB-value, but it returns given colors and does not define them.

The only way to use gdl defined colors is to define custom materials. Bernhard Binder wrote in 2002 an object wich had a smooth color changing by using this technic. But if you use project2 3,270,2 I think AC will try to use only pens of the set. No way to trick.

Close... PROJECT2 3, 270, 3 seems to work, if I create an inline MATERIAL definition, with Red, Green, and Blue parameters... no way to get a color picker that I can find.,,

Re: Placing "zone-like" fills into objects

James Murray — Fri, 14 Jul 2006 19:15:55 GMT

Link wrote:
it is possible to give an RGB color to a fill in PlotMaker.

I have wished to GS that they allow us a similar functionality in ArchiCAD - no news yet!

Aha! What about pen -2!

Show the zone category fills and then explode a zone. You get the exploded stamp stuff and a fill. The fill is Air Space, the pattern pen is 1, and the background pen is... -2 RGB Color.

No, it's not the color of the zone category. It's black. And you can't edit it.

So AC has RGB fills! They don't work, and you can't use them, but other than that...

(Why explode a zone? Not sure exactly...)

Re: Placing "zone-like" fills into objects

Link — Sat, 15 Jul 2006 04:46:11 GMT

Link wrote:
it is possible to give an RGB color to a fill in PlotMaker.

I have wished to GS that they allow us a similar functionality in ArchiCAD - no news yet!

Aye Corumba!

Quoting me from over a year ago there mate! When RGB was only available in PM. There was a discussion on RGB colors and pen -2 more recently. I first stumbled across it when copying a pasting the new shaded elevations onto the floor plan. No idea why I was doing that, but it's a neat addition anyway - I just wish we could adjust the RGB values!

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Placing "zone-like" fills into objects

James Murray — Sat, 15 Jul 2006 10:38:51 GMT

Link wrote:
Quoting me from over a year ago there mate! When RGB was only available in PM. There was a discussion on RGB colors and pen -2 more recently.

Hm, why did my search turn up this old thread and miss that one? Not trying to trip you up anyway. I must have remembered you mentioning it, and I just dropped it in the first place I saw.

I first stumbled across it when copying a pasting the new shaded elevations onto the floor plan..

<slaps forehead> Of course you'd need them for that. The old 3D window polygon method of rounding to the nearest pen wouldn't cut it in a Drawing SE.

..I just wish we could adjust the RGB values!

That's the thing, the tech is in there, why can't we use it? Are they afraid we'll break it? It's strange to wish for something that AC already has.

Re: Placing "zone-like" fills into objects

Link — Sun, 16 Jul 2006 02:42:49 GMT

James wrote:

<slaps forehead>

Don't beat yourself up there James. As usual I am in agreeance.

Thanks also for the humor you provide to the forum. I personally always get a kick out of your posts. Keep 'em coming.

Cheers,
Link.