topic Re: Elevation marker with arrows to point in 4 directions in Libraries & objects

Elevation marker with arrows to point in 4 directions

Anonymous — Mon, 11 Apr 2005 17:48:49 GMT

We use the section elevation tool for our interior elevations. We use the elevation marker in floor plan so it looks like an interior elevation tag instead of a section marker. Some rooms are very small like toilet rooms and we need 2 arrows instead of just one. Does Archicad have an object we can choose that allows for this. We also want the tag to automatically to put the number in from plotmaker. We would aim the section elevation to the first interior elevation and then put in extra interior elevations that wouldn't show up in plan. THis way the interior elvation on the floor plan would be correct and we would just have one long interior elvation in plotmaker made up of the 2 or 3 or 4 elevations. THe ELEVATION MARKER object looks like it would work but it doesn't in version 9. ANy ideas?

Thanks,
Michele

Re: Elevation marker with arrows to point in 4 directions

Anonymous — Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:41:28 GMT

That is a long standing wish! I usually have to put/hide the sect/elev. on a different layer and then put the symbol of what I want it to look like on the floor plan. Unless someone can enlighten me I think that's what we're stuck with at the moment.

Re: Elevation marker with arrows to point in 4 directions

Anonymous — Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:35:01 GMT

Yo can't be serious!!!!! THIS is a wish item? I guess I'll have to make an object myself.... which will take days or months cause I'm not so good with code. If I get something I'll post it.

Thanks,
Michele

Re: Elevation marker with arrows to point in 4 directions

Anonymous — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 00:10:37 GMT

Has anyone made any progress with this problem. It's extremely frustrating.

Re: Elevation marker with arrows to point in 4 directions

TomWaltz — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:25:03 GMT

We have a custom elevation marker, which is just one arrow that is hotspot-editable to be able to move the marker. One section is placed facing each direction, then the markers are moved to align with each other.

The text in the middle of the arrows finds the drawing and sheet number (4/A4.1), but the letters in the arrows (A, B, C) are set to read the last character of the name of the section, so users are instructed to name their elevations "Kitchen Elevation A."

I also threw in text in a non-plotting pen which shows the section ID number to make them easier to find in Navigator.

Seems to work pretty well so far.

Re: Elevation marker with arrows to point in 4 directions

Anonymous — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:35:15 GMT

Tom,
Would you like to share w/ us or maybe sell the object to Graphisoft so that it can be in the next version!!!!! I haven't had time to play with it yet.
DO your letters rotate when the section/ elevation is rotated?

Thanks,
Michele

Re: Elevation marker with arrows to point in 4 directions

TomWaltz — Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:28:43 GMT

No, the letters always read upright, and I managed to get a switch in for the occasional "diagonal" view.

Re: Elevation marker with arrows to point in 4 directions

Karl Ottenstein — Sun, 17 Jul 2005 20:46:18 GMT

TomWaltz wrote:
We have a custom elevation marker, which is just one arrow that is hotspot-editable to be able to move the marker. One section is placed facing each direction, then the markers are moved to align with each other....

Thanks for sharing this, Tom, and congratulations on your Tip of the Month award for it!

I was swamped when this thread was happening and didn't download your marker then ... and the download count suggests lots of other people didn't either. So, another way to celebrate your award is to for everyone to come back here and get your marker and add it to their libraries. Interior elevations that are live and have a standard marker format. A long term wish granted by your contribution. 😉

Karl

Re: Elevation marker with arrows to point in 4 directions

lagodue — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 04:14:07 GMT

Thanks for posting this file.
When I download to my PC, I am not given a choice about where to download to. It simply downloads/extracts in the blink of an eye and I don't have a clue where it went, despite many searches for "IntElevMarker".

Any ideas where to find it?

Re: Elevation marker with arrows to point in 4 directions

Karl Ottenstein — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 18:09:57 GMT

lagodue wrote:
Thanks for posting this file.
When I download to my PC, I am not given a choice about where to download to. It simply downloads/extracts in the blink of an eye and I don't have a clue where it went, despite many searches for "IntElevMarker".

Any ideas where to find it?

This is a Windows setting that you apparently changed without realizing it. Normally, when you click on a zip file, you will be presented with a download dialog. There is a checkbox in that dialog that says "Always ask before opening this type of file". The behavior you describe is as if you had at some time (accidentally?) cleared that checkbox.

There is a registry fix to bring it back, but the easiest solution is to RIGHT-click on the download link (instead of left click), and then select the pop-up menu option to "Save Target As" ... then navigate to where you want to save the downloaded file. Unzip from there.

Karl

Re: Elevation marker with arrows to point in 4 directions

Rakela Raul — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 20:05:40 GMT

thanku tom

Re: Elevation marker with arrows to point in 4 directions

lagodue — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 20:49:27 GMT

Karl kavitates <<There is a registry fix to bring it back, but the easiest solution is to RIGHT-click on the download link (instead of left click), and then select the pop-up menu option to "Save Target As" ... then navigate to where you want to save the downloaded file. Unzip from there.>>

Thanks Karl -

Also, I have searched many times/ways for what was downloading automatically. Where were these files going?

Re: Elevation marker with arrows to point in 4 directions

Erika Epstein — Thu, 28 Jul 2005 04:57:14 GMT

TomWaltz wrote:
No, the letters always read upright, and I managed to get a switch in for the occasional "diagonal" view.

Tom,
Lovely marker; thank you for sharing with all of us and congratulations on tip of the month!

I particularly like your diagonal view feature.

Re: Elevation marker with arrows to point in 4 directions

TomWaltz — Fri, 09 Sep 2005 17:11:41 GMT

Erika wrote:
TomWaltz wrote:
No, the letters always read upright, and I managed to get a switch in for the occasional "diagonal" view.

Tom,
Lovely marker; thank you for sharing with all of us and congratulations on tip of the month!

I particularly like your diagonal view feature.

OK, for some reason, the "diagonal" function was not working correctly for some people.

Try the attached on instead:

Re: Elevation marker with arrows to point in 4 directions

TomWaltz — Tue, 13 Sep 2005 13:29:08 GMT

I just found a bit of a bug in that last post. Some faced the wrong way!!

This one fixes that bug (hopefully for the last time!)

Re: Elevation marker with arrows to point in 4 directions

Anonymous — Tue, 13 Sep 2005 15:05:51 GMT

Thanks for the marker...

Now how do you use it?
How does the auto numbering work?
Do you have to use a seperate marker for each elevation, or do have to stack them on top of each other for it to work?

Looks pretty nifty, just a little confused on how it's supposed to work.

Thanks for the help.

Re: Elevation marker with arrows to point in 4 directions

Djordje — Tue, 13 Sep 2005 17:57:40 GMT

Tom,

TomWaltz wrote:
I just found a bit of a bug in that last post. Some faced the wrong way!!

This one fixes that bug (hopefully for the last time!)

There is also a forum for free ArchiCAD objects ... so please ...

Re: Elevation marker with arrows to point in 4 directions

TomWaltz — Wed, 14 Sep 2005 00:11:32 GMT

Djordje wrote:
Tom,

TomWaltz wrote:
I just found a bit of a bug in that last post. Some faced the wrong way!!

This one fixes that bug (hopefully for the last time!)
There is also a forum for free ArchiCAD objects ... so please ...

sorry, Djordje, but the GS "Tip of the Month" link pointed here, and it was the home of the original, so I felt it was the proper place for updates/bug fixes.

Re: Elevation marker with arrows to point in 4 directions

TomWaltz — Wed, 14 Sep 2005 00:17:28 GMT

dgodfrey wrote:
Thanks for the marker...

Now how do you use it?
How does the auto numbering work?
Do you have to use a seperate marker for each elevation, or do have to stack them on top of each other for it to work?

Looks pretty nifty, just a little confused on how it's supposed to work.

Thanks for the help.

The auto-numbering read the last X characters of your Section Name. If X is 1 (it's a parameter), and your section name is "Kitchen Elevation A", the text in the point will be "A". Then "Kitchen Elevation B" would have "B" in the point.

There is also a "key" value, which is the only one to show the text inside the central box, for Plotmaker. By default, only the "A" marker has the inner text filled in. (It was a user request, I forget why). Of course, you can turn the whole thing off and override the text.

The marker should be in "Elevation" mode (as opposed to "Section"). You place a section cut line in each direction, then use the Pet Palette to move just the markers on top of each other.

If you have a marker on a 45 degree angle, there is a parameter for "Diagonal." I really wanted to automate that, but the Section Plan data is a little random, based on which direction the section line is drawn (left to right, right to left).

The marker also shows the ID number of the Section, which a lot of people liked to help them keep track of their sections. There is a parameter to turn it off if it bugs you.

I'm sure it's not perfect for everyone, but I hope it helps a little somewhere!

Re: Elevation marker with arrows to point in 4 directions

Rakela Raul — Wed, 14 Sep 2005 11:39:00 GMT

thanku tom for sharing this and i wish u the best in oo