topic wall accessories in Libraries & objects

wall accessories

Aussie John — Sun, 31 Oct 2004 23:12:05 GMT

I am looking to make a very simple accessory (a single panel at the base of wall)
Is there a particular command type do should use to create the accessory? I tried a block command but the wall openings didnt cut through the plinth

Thanks

Re: wall accessories

Djordje — Mon, 01 Nov 2004 02:14:03 GMT

Aussie wrote:
I am looking to make a very simple accessory (a single panel at the base of wall)
Is there a particular command type do should use to create the accessory? I tried a block command but the wall openings didnt cut through the plinth

As the topic name says - use Wall Accessories

Re: wall accessories

Aussie John — Mon, 01 Nov 2004 07:37:25 GMT

Thanks Djordje but that wasnt exactly the answer I was looking for
After all I am trying to use Wall accessories but wanted to know to script one so it is cut by openings.

Re: wall accessories

Karl Ottenstein — Mon, 01 Nov 2004 17:42:15 GMT

Aussie wrote:
After all I am trying to use Wall accessories but wanted to know to script one so it is cut by openings.

Your original query still isn't very clear, John. Are you saying that using the standard wall accessory with no trim and just a lower wainscot is not adequate? Is your panel supposed to have reveals, trim, etc then? ... that is, a single trimmed panel between each door/window opening, as opposed to a single panel at the base of the wall as you first said?

If the latter, you have to start with one of the existing wall accessory objects and modify it. (You can try starting a new object and giving it the 'wall accessory' subtype, but: good luck!) All of the geometry for the wall and its openings is passed to the wall accessory object by the API and so is there to be manipulated. An existing accessory object saved under a new name in your project lib will appear as a valid accessory to the wall accessory add-on.

I believe that Ferenc Lazar wrote some of these, and so he might be someone to hire to do this for you if it looks too involved.

Karl

Re: wall accessories

Djordje — Mon, 01 Nov 2004 19:14:00 GMT

Aussie wrote:
Thanks Djordje but that wasnt exactly the answer I was looking for
After all I am trying to use Wall accessories but wanted to know to script one so it is cut by openings.

Being just a humble architect I leave the arcane science of API programming to the likes of Karl and Ferenc ... so there are the people to ask, and the Developer's forum is probably the right place?

Re: wall accessories

Karl Ottenstein — Mon, 01 Nov 2004 19:39:40 GMT

Djordje wrote:
Being just a humble architect I leave the arcane science of API programming to the likes of Karl and Ferenc ... so there are the people to ask, and the Developer's forum is probably the right place?

So much more than a humble architect, my friend ... but as a humble not-an-architect, and Developer Forum moderator, let me suggest that GDL-Talk is the place to discuss this. The Dev Forum is for discussing writing add-ons, not using them. Producing a new wall accessory is completely a GDL matter. And the GDL forum here is not for topics this advanced.

Humbly, 😉

Karl

Re: wall accessories

Aussie John — Tue, 02 Nov 2004 04:09:30 GMT

Karl wrote:
Your original query still isn't very clear, John. Are you saying that using the standard wall accessory with no trim and just a lower wainscot is not adequate? Is your panel supposed to have reveals, trim, etc then? ... that is, a single trimmed panel between each door/window opening, as opposed to a single panel at the base of the wall as you first said?
Karl

Thanks Karl,
I couldnt get the standard wall accessory to not show the trims. Just showing the waincoat would look ok in elevation but i wanted the wall to have the appearance of band of a differnent material. (ie running into the opening).

I did hack the accessory to get what I wanted in 3d but the 2d view was pretty uggly!!

Since the 2d view can be hidden I can live with that.

Also I think it is a shame that GDL-talk is needed to discuss an item like this. After all this forum should be the font of all knowledge regardless of how complex an answer might be.

Re: wall accessories

Anonymous — Tue, 02 Nov 2004 05:25:07 GMT

Aussie wrote:
I couldnt get the standard wall accessory to not show the trims. Just showing the waincoat would look ok in elevation but i wanted the wall to have the appearance of band of a differnent material. (ie running into the opening).

Interesting... playing around with this, if one sets up the Wall accessory to show no trim in the Moldings and Paneling tab of the Object Settings Dialogue box (1 in picture attached) and then places the object, these settings will default back to 20 (crown), 11 (chair rail) and 40 (base)

After the object has been placed, if one selects it and goes to the Parameters tab of the dialogue box (2 in picture attached) and changes the values to 0, you can hide the moldings.

This looks like a bug.

Re: wall accessories

Karl Ottenstein — Tue, 02 Nov 2004 18:40:28 GMT

Aussie wrote:
Also I think it is a shame that GDL-talk is needed to discuss an item like this. After all this forum should be the font of all knowledge regardless of how complex an answer might be.

Glad you got it to do what you want, John.

I agree that GDL-Talk should be folded into the GDL forum here, so that we have one place to discuss and search. But, others there disagree. In particular, many of the advanced GDL folks read GDL-Talk and don't come here at all.

I suppose I made it sound like a 'rule' (although the concept is what was proposed by several on GDL-Talk when the GDL forum here opened a year ago) ...when really I should have said that you would be more likely to get an appropriate answer over there. 😉

Cheers,
Karl