topic Re: Finish Issue for Wall Cavity Closure on Empty Door Openings in Libraries & objects

Finish Issue for Wall Cavity Closure on Empty Door Openings

DataChris — Wed, 24 May 2023 08:44:14 GMT

Hey All, Just reaching out to see if anyone has a quick solution for this empty opening wall finish closure issue...

I'm currently using "Rectangular Door Opening 21" with a Traditional Cavity Closure setting, though I had similar issues with "D Empty 21". I'm finding the finish doesn't Wrap/Turn the Plaster/Finish material but just extends the composite in full (by the thickness of the finish). The composite correctly defines the core/finish materials so I'm not sure what I'm missing here? Any thoughts?

Re: Finish Issue for Wall Cavity Closure on Empty Door Openings

David Maudlin — Thu, 10 May 2018 12:04:27 GMT

DataChris:

This could be caused by using the Ganging feature: Door Settings > Opening Settings > Floor Plan and Section > Ganging.

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David

Re: Finish Issue for Wall Cavity Closure on Empty Door Openings

DataChris — Sun, 13 May 2018 23:54:27 GMT

David wrote:
This could be caused by using the Ganging feature: Door Settings > Opening Settings > Floor Plan and Section > Ganging..."

Thanks for the suggestion but that had no effect.

Re: Finish Issue for Wall Cavity Closure on Empty Door Openings

Daniel Kovacs — Wed, 06 Jun 2018 15:52:57 GMT

Hi DataChris,

Unfortunately a limitation of our current doors and windows is that these closures are not represented in 3D - the bounding geometry is generated, but the skins are not turned.

If your picture is of the section, unfortunately there's nothing you can do about this (at least with the stock ARCHICAD doors/windows), since that's generated from the 3D where there's no turn-in.
If you are having this representation problem in the floor plan, then it is probably because the "Floor Plan Display" of the door's settings is set to "Projected". If you set it to "Symbolic", then it should display the skin turnings properly.

If you desperately need the skins turned-in in 3D as well, as far as I know this window can do it (I don't know if it works as an empty opening though).

Regards,

Re: Finish Issue for Wall Cavity Closure on Empty Door Openings

DataChris — Wed, 06 Jun 2018 18:03:33 GMT

dkovacs wrote:
.... If you set it to "Symbolic", then it should display the skin turnings properly.

Thanks, that was it (for a plan fix at least).

Hopefully Graphisoft can address this issue in future versions. In fact, the default behavior for both wall ends and empty door/win openings should be to wrap (turn) the plaster around the wall core... as exposed framing with finished walls isn't a reality in 999 out of 1000 projects.

Re: Finish Issue for Wall Cavity Closure on Empty Door Openings

Anonymous — Fri, 13 Jul 2018 21:47:21 GMT

The best solution I have found for this is to use an empty framed opening and make the frame the same thickness and material as your drywall.