topic Re: how to load labels in label tool in Libraries & objects

how to load labels in label tool

Anonymous — Thu, 26 Aug 2004 21:14:50 GMT

Im new to archicad 8.1 How does one load the diferent labels to use the label tool. I tried to open the archicad 8.1 library to look for labels to load but I cant find any.
Im just tryng to use the label tool with a square or triangle or circular tag.
My object library is still archived from factory settings. I dont know if I have to "de-archive" (pardon my english) it in order for this to work

Re: how to load labels in label tool

Anonymous — Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:05:34 GMT

ive got the same question. does archicad ship with the a wider range of symbols than those already loaded? if not, how does one create/load new symbols?

Re: how to load labels in label tool

Aussie John — Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:08:29 GMT

Archicad finds any labels in the loaded library regardless of where they are hidden.

To make a label create an ordinary object and change the "type" to label.

Re: how to load labels in label tool

Anonymous — Sun, 28 Jan 2007 00:12:51 GMT

how do you change the type?

Re: how to load labels in label tool

Rod Jurich — Sun, 28 Jan 2007 03:55:42 GMT

LINZ wrote:
how do you change the type?

Aussie wrote:
Archicad finds any labels in the loaded library regardless of where they are hidden.

To make a label create an ordinary object and change the "type" to label.

If I understand your query correctly, John may mean...... see attached.
Then again you could refer to the manual and help menu.

Re: how to load labels in label tool

Anonymous — Sun, 28 Jan 2007 04:24:51 GMT

I think what John means is, after you make your label
and save it as a GDL object, it's subtype will be
, by default, "general GDL object". To make it a label
you need to change the subtype to label.
To do this, you open the object via file->libraries and objects->open object
then with the button at the top of the parameters list labeled "select subtype"
select label as the subtype.
Peter Devlin

Re: how to load labels in label tool

Aussie John — Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:54:14 GMT

Peter wrote:
I think what John means is, after you make your label
and save it as a GDL object, it's subtype will be
, by default, "general GDL object". To make it a label
you need to change the subtype to label.
To do this, you open the object via file->libraries and objects->open object
then with the button at the top of the parameters list labeled "select subtype"
select label as the subtype.
Peter Devlin

Thanks Peter

Re: how to load labels in label tool

Anonymous — Mon, 29 Jan 2007 00:27:37 GMT

Thanks for your help.

Now I know how to assign an object the correct subtype.

Ive attached an example of a Wall Type Label, that I created with the line tool and the text tool. I saved the selection as a GDL object and assigned it the subtype of "label". My one oversight now is that I can't edit the number inside the graphic. I tried adding a text field inside the object settings, but i can't get it to do what i want. any suggestions?

thanks in advance.

Re: how to load labels in label tool

Anonymous — Mon, 29 Jan 2007 01:57:56 GMT

Lindsay,
I am afraid you are going to have to learn some GDL.
Labels are GDL objects with 2D code not just drawings.
Open one of the labels supplied by GS and look at the
2D code.
You could start learning some GDL by looking
at the code of an existing label. You could save one of
these labels that looks the closest to what you want
under a different name and try editing the code
to get the label to have the appearance you want
while keeping all of functional code intact.
Peter Devlin

Re: how to load labels in label tool

Aussie John — Mon, 29 Jan 2007 03:48:14 GMT

Lindsay - you could try the object label if all you want is a reference number.

you could also play with the following script - add it to the 2D script window. I havent used version 8 for a while I hope it works.


If label_custom_arrow Then	add2 label_position[2][1]+label_position[3][1]+symb_a_size/2,label_position[2][2]+label_position[3][2]+symb_b_size/2
define style  "textstyle"  label_font_name, label_text_size, 5, label_font_style
set style "textstyle"

Circle2 0,0,.25*A_/100 
text2 0,0,Glob_ID

NOTE the first line looks complex (it allows the text to move into the position of the point of a text arrow if you choose not to use the arrow) but for the time being just look up the other commands in the GDL user manual to get you started. If you wanted to you could change the ".25" in the circle command to a parameter so it can be changed on the fly. In the real world the size of the circle would be controlled by the size of the text but I didn't want to make it too complex.

Re: how to load labels in label tool

Anonymous — Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:34:07 GMT

Well, I think learning GDL is a bit more than i wanted to invest at this point.

In the end, i want a hexagonal label with text in the center that corresponds to the Wall Type/Composite. Looks like i'll label the plan with drawing elements.

Thanks for your advice.

Re: how to load labels in label tool

Andy Thomson — Tue, 06 Feb 2007 05:38:34 GMT

LINZ wrote:
Well, I think learning GDL is a bit more than i wanted to invest at this point.

Nooooo! It's easier than that! Use the window label to label your wall. Sounds stupid but the marker gives a lot of flexibility, like hexagon, font sizes, extension line or not, etc.

Label your wall with any dumb label, then set up a window label to look as you would have your wall label look. Then parameter transfer (alt-click, then ctrl-alt-click) the label part of your window label only. Don't worry, it won't place a window there. Delete your window and use that label for everything. Is that suitable? Parameter transfer for labels is a big help, IMO.

Re: how to load labels in label tool

Anonymous — Tue, 06 Feb 2007 20:24:35 GMT

Thanks for your advice.

I've done some trial and error with your method.

I used the "D Marker 10" label as a starting point for my window label. I use the Hexagonal Shape, and remove the dimensions from the label.

After I place the window, i then select the attributes, but the entire window is highlighted - not just the marker.

So transferring attributes from the window to the wall is not working for me. Is there something I am overlooking?

Re: how to load labels in label tool

Andy Thomson — Tue, 06 Feb 2007 20:37:43 GMT

LINZ wrote:
Is there something I am overlooking?

Yeah, label the wall first, before doing anything. It will show whatever dumb label it is set up with by default. Then you alt-click just the label part of the window label (center of the hexagon) you tweaked (no need to delete dims, etc), and then inject this into the dumb wall label, it should turn into your new wall label...

Re: how to load labels in label tool

Anonymous — Tue, 06 Feb 2007 21:14:35 GMT

I did label the wall first.

I've attached a PDF showing the Hex shape I want on the window and the default wall label on the right. When I transfer attributes, the only thing that changes is the size and font of the text.