topic Re: Screened Porch in Libraries & objects

Screened Porch

Red — Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:17:09 GMT

I'm searching for an object that I could use for a screen porch. Does anyone know where I could find one?

Re: Screened Porch

David Larrew — Wed, 05 Nov 2003 23:53:41 GMT

Are you looking for a whole porch Object (floor, columns, roof, screen panels, etc.)?
Or are you asking how to build a porch from individual components using Walls, Columns, Slabs, etc.?
Or are you looking for an object to use as the screen panels?

Re: Screened Porch

Conrado Dominguez — Thu, 06 Nov 2003 01:41:12 GMT

Red:

Do you really need a Library Part ?
If the screen is visiblke only in elevations drawings, a fill may be all you need.
If you needed for a 3D model, you may need to create a new material using the Glass material as a basis and adding some sort of a texture. (Just a suggestion, I have not tried this)

Conrado

Re: Screened Porch

Anonymous — Thu, 06 Nov 2003 02:06:52 GMT

Hi Red

I use the technique Conrado suggests, it works great in the 3D model but you lose it in rendering unless you have a good texture. The only textures I've found acceptable for this has been for safety glass with the "chicken" wire in it, screens have been tough because I've never been able to illiminate the backrounds in the textures.

Re: Screened Porch

Dwight — Thu, 06 Nov 2003 06:25:36 GMT

To make a convincing porch screen, edit glass by adding a high-resolution noise texture with an alpha channel mask to knock out some background.

Increase the opaqueness of the glass until it all works.

Take out the green color of the glass - make white if aluminum screen and black if nylon.

For shiny screen, make the specular reflection of the material high.

Re: Screened Porch

Red — Thu, 06 Nov 2003 16:10:42 GMT

Or are you looking for an object to use as the screen panels?.

Yes just the object itself.

By the way thanks for all the help guys. I will give that a try Dwight

Re: Screened Porch

Red — Thu, 06 Nov 2003 16:29:11 GMT

After Dwight mention tweaking the settings of the glass material I think it turned out perfect. Heres an attached file showing the settings with the finished product.

Re: Screened Porch

Karl Ottenstein — Thu, 06 Nov 2003 17:36:49 GMT

You've got it, Red.

If the camera might be close enough to the screen that the viewer would (should) see the screen mesh texture - make an alpha-mapped screen mesh and load that texture into your material.

Have fun,
Karl

Re: Screened Porch

Anonymous — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:22:29 GMT

hi red,
i tried the settings you gave me, but it doesn't show up at all. it kind of shows up in the materials settings, but when i go to the 3d view, it's totally gone. i even took the transparency way down. i had to take it 30 before it showed up and then it went to total black. any ideas?

Re: Screened Porch

Dwight — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:18:22 GMT

Post your material settings and your rendering settings.

Re: Screened Porch

Anonymous — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:20:47 GMT

this is my materials settings.

Re: Screened Porch

Anonymous — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:21:47 GMT

this is my rendering setting

Re: Screened Porch

Dwight — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:51:14 GMT

And what settings are you using for the LightWorks material and rendering?

Re: Screened Porch

Anonymous — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:12:14 GMT

i was using the internal rendering engine.

Re: Screened Porch

Dwight — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:16:34 GMT

please post your rendering result.

Re: Screened Porch

Anonymous — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:35:28 GMT

this is it. the two story area on the left is supposed to be a screened in porch. i've shown the screens extending past the roof line just so that you can see them. thanks

Re: Screened Porch

Dwight — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:46:08 GMT

This appears to be an OpenGL image.
Do you have a rendering?

Re: Screened Porch

Anonymous — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:48:14 GMT

maybe i'm confused as to what you mean by rendering. i was just trying to see what it looked like in my 3-d window. will this only show up correctly if i do a rendering, not just an axon or perspective? sorry, i'm still really new at this stuff.

Re: Screened Porch

Anonymous — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:58:43 GMT

wow, i feel really moronic. i photo rendered the image and it turned up just fine. sorry.

Re: Screened Porch

Anonymous — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:05:13 GMT

FYI, OpenGL image has no partial transparency. If a materials' transmittance factor is higher than the setting in the Open GL / Options setting (see below) it will be invisible. Easy mistake to make.