topic Re: Security gate object? in Libraries & objects

Security gate object?

Kamelite — Thu, 02 Jan 2025 14:34:55 GMT

I need an object like this:

I have found several, but they are RFA and Archicad 25 wont let me import them, it is from the wrong Revitversion i guess...

.Kamelite

Re: Security gate object?

Jose Gradoli — Tue, 13 Dec 2022 12:47:21 GMT

There are a lot of rfa objects, but no GDL. I tested myself in bimobject and other sites..

Re: Security gate object?

MF BIM — Tue, 13 Dec 2022 14:32:29 GMT

I worked with manufacturers in the past and unless they have regular demands from Archicad users, they have no incentive to model their products for BIM other than for Revit unfortunately... You could maybe try to contact some of them and ask for a Revit file in a version that would be fine to import in AC25.

Re: Security gate object?

Botonis — Tue, 13 Dec 2022 15:36:59 GMT

There is an object close to yours at.

https://kilobim.com/produto/porta-enrolar-roolupdoor-Archicad/?v=cf46f4701eab

Not free. not expensive. Check the video whether it suits your need.

Re: Security gate object?

Lingwisyer — Wed, 14 Dec 2022 01:40:11 GMT

Could you make do using the default High Speed Door object with a texture for your grating? There is no option to modify the motor box though...

Re: Security gate object?

Barry Kelly — Wed, 14 Dec 2022 01:52:53 GMT

If you don't need it parametric, then you could create it from slabs and beams on the floor and then save as a door object.

Barry.

Re: Security gate object?

Jim Allen — Wed, 14 Dec 2022 18:00:49 GMT

This is a roller shutter door, and it's a standard object that really ought to be in the object library. There is a wishlist item for it.

In the meantime, someone on this forum told me you can use the empty window object with the sunshade option.

You can do things like this with it:

There are quite a few options that may work for you.

The 'high speed door and Garage door options are not at all the same. This is the closest.

Re: Security gate object?

Kamelite — Thu, 15 Dec 2022 08:04:17 GMT

This is really interesting. I have to look into that!

Thank you!

.Kamelite

Re: Security gate object?

Kamelite — Thu, 15 Dec 2022 08:31:07 GMT

The window-opening object in my library didn't have the possibillity of sunshade. So I D/L the object Rectangular Window Opening 17, with wich I did this:

But how do I change the look of the surface to something similar to your picture?

.Kamelite

Re: Security gate object?

Barry Kelly — Thu, 15 Dec 2022 08:38:12 GMT

Not the opening tool but an empty opening object should have the sunshade option.

This is 26 but 25 should be the same.

In the material setting you can choose a 'perforated metal material' if you have one.

If not you may be able to find one in the new material from surface catalogue option.

Barry.

Re: Security gate object?

Kamelite — Thu, 15 Dec 2022 10:59:44 GMT

In my opening-object I don't have an option to change the material settings.

I think I will settle with the one on the picture. It isn't desvribed as a gate you can see through, it is for a garagae fascility in a hospital

Anyway, thanks to everyone who gave me tips! Much appreciated!

.Kamelite

Re: Security gate object?

Jeff Galbraith — Tue, 20 Dec 2022 02:20:06 GMT

Looks like an overhead coiling grille. You may be able to find another object on another site such as BIMobject etc. However any RFA object you import will not be parametric so you wouldn't be able to change the opening sizes...which will be a non-starter in just about every instance.

We typically just model those as a group of elements. Columns with custom profiles for the jamb guide channels. Beam with custom profile for the head can, and a curtain wall with custom frame objects for the grille infill. You can classify the grill curtain wall element as the door object so it shows up in your door schedule. This will give you the most flexibility to get it to look how you want, and change the size, and make sure you coordinate the jamb connection points correctly in your model.

Another option would be using Library Part Maker to create a custom door object, but again the opening dimensions will not be parametric...you'll have to create a new library part for each size you need...a huge limitation for LPM. Plus, the door would have to be hosted in a wall...which is not how these types of doors are typically installed...so that leads to other issues.

Re: Security gate object?

Kamelite — Wed, 21 Dec 2022 11:27:48 GMT

I discovered it in my Simple Window- object. It took a bit of searching, but I found it. Its close enough!

.Kamelite