topic Re: Warning! Cannot find some Library Parts or Internal Macros. in Libraries & objects

Warning! Cannot find some Library Parts or Internal Macros.

Gisele — Thu, 02 Jan 2025 14:08:44 GMT

How to fix this warning message?

What are Internal Macros?

Re: Warning! Cannot find some Library Parts or Internal Macros.

Lingwisyer — Tue, 11 Jul 2023 01:37:39 GMT

Your library manager does not report any missing objects? Internal macros would be Called objects, so objects used by other objects.

Re: Warning! Cannot find some Library Parts or Internal Macros.

Gisele — Tue, 11 Jul 2023 17:25:33 GMT

My library has Missing Library Parts.

Not sure how to recover them.

Re: Warning! Cannot find some Library Parts or Internal Macros.

Barry Kelly — Wed, 12 Jul 2023 00:58:55 GMT

They are not actually missing objects in your project.

They are Favourites set to use missing objects.

You need to edit those Favourites so they look for the correct objects in your loaded libraries.

Or load the library that those objects are saved in.

I am not sure if it will give you more information about which library they are from.

Looking at the names it is obviously a 26 library, but it could be INT or USA or another language version.

Barry.

Re: Warning! Cannot find some Library Parts or Internal Macros.

Lingwisyer — Wed, 12 Jul 2023 01:07:59 GMT

Missing favourites should not be causing your archive error message...

Re: Warning! Cannot find some Library Parts or Internal Macros.

ilasmile87 — Wed, 03 Jul 2024 19:31:55 GMT

Good morning.

Excuse me, how did you solve it?

I have the same problem and I can't solve it.

Can you give me some directions please?

Re: Warning! Cannot find some Library Parts or Internal Macros.

Gisele — Wed, 03 Jul 2024 20:44:16 GMT

I have simply ignored the message and "saved anyway." I do not have an answer. All I can say is that Library Migration is a problem that ArchiCAD did NOT fix yet.
Our BIM manager advised us to 1) use the same ArchiCAD version (either USA or INT): we are using the USA version.

2) upload the libraries directly from the server instead of the C: drive.

Re: Warning! Cannot find some Library Parts or Internal Macros.

Barry Kelly — Thu, 04 Jul 2024 01:29:14 GMT

@Gisele wrote:

I have simply ignored the message and "saved anyway." I do not have an answer. All I can say is that Library Migration is a problem that ArchiCAD did NOT fix yet.
Our BIM manager advised us to 1) use the same ArchiCAD version (either USA or INT): we are using the USA version.

2) upload the libraries directly from the server instead of the C: drive.

1) Correct, the objects in different language versions may be totally different - even if they have the same name.

2) This shouldn't matter if you are loading default Archicad libraries and they are the only objects that have been used.

In this case for the missing favourites, when you go to use the object favourites you will probably see them with a question mark for the icon.

If you edit that favourite it will be looking for an object that is not in your loaded libraries.

You can edit it and change it for an object that is in the loaded libraries, you can load the library that is required, or you can delete the favourite.

Barry.

Re: Warning! Cannot find some Library Parts or Internal Macros.

ilasmile87 — Fri, 05 Jul 2024 22:11:17 GMT

Sorry, but I can't solve it.
The .pla file was passed to me.
I was told that the .pla file contains within it all the libraries necessary for the model to function.
Why are you telling me there are no libraries? I tried deleting them, losing parts of the model. It doesn't allow me to save a .pla file either.

When I open the file, what choice should I make for libraries?
I've tried all three with no resolution.

Thank you

Re: Warning! Cannot find some Library Parts or Internal Macros.

Lingwisyer — Thu, 04 Jul 2024 07:15:34 GMT

You are trying to read from an archive? That is different from the OP... If the person who supplied the .PLA to you says they included all librariesd when archiving, and when you read elements directly from the archive you are still getting things modelled elements missing, then you will need to talk to that person. Your library manager should have the .PLA listed there.

Ling.

Re: Warning! Cannot find some Library Parts or Internal Macros.

Barry Kelly — Thu, 04 Jul 2024 07:43:12 GMT

It is hard for me to say what has happened as I did not save the PLA file.

It should save a .PLA library as part of the file.

What is saved in that library depends on the options chosen when saving it.

In an experiment I just did, I saved the file I was working on as a PLA archive.

I am currently working in a version 22 file.

I saved with the option to save favourites (seems to be the default) and not the entire library.

Even then it did not save all of the favourites.

I got this message ...

And the result when I open the PLA ...

The missing favourites may just be a problem in my file.

I use custom libraries and not the default Graphisoft ones - so this coluld be a problem I have created.

However, notice there is a PLA library loaded.

If you now save this PLA as a PLN, it will remain the same.

But if you delete the original PLA file this library is linked to, then all of the objects will become missing, because you have effectively deleted the source library.

Or if you delete this loaded PLA library from the list, they will also become missing.

All of the old version missing objects is just because in my custom library, many of the old objects are from old versions and have not been updated.

Archicad seems to remember the version they were created in.

So to solve this I need to load the missing PLA file again, but if you have deleted it then you can not do that.

Or you need to load the old library that was the originla source of the objects, in your case the version 23 library (you may also need to load the migration libraries).

Barry.

Re: Warning! Cannot find some Library Parts or Internal Macros.

ilasmile87 — Thu, 04 Jul 2024 11:18:57 GMT

Thank you very much.
So, if whoever produced the file saves another copy by selecting all the options for safety, should the problem be resolved?

Re: Warning! Cannot find some Library Parts or Internal Macros.

ilasmile87 — Fri, 05 Jul 2024 15:13:50 GMT

I was given the .pla file with all the archive options selected. It is 15 times heavier than the previous .pla.

If I now try to save it with another name I don't get the error "I can't find some parts of libraries or internal macros".

However I get this error.

Different people worked on the project, so other libraries may be missing. However, I wonder: how can the last person who worked on it save it as a .pla without any problem, while I can't?

However, I wonder: how can the last person who worked on it save it as a .pla without any problems, while I can't?

Re: Warning! Cannot find some Library Parts or Internal Macros.

Barry Kelly — Fri, 05 Jul 2024 01:09:32 GMT

I am not sure why you can not save the PLN file.

I just tried and it saved fine.

Could it be that you do not have access to where the file is saving?

Are you opening it as a teamwork file?

Seeing as it is an 'archive' file, you really should not be saving it as a PLN.

The idea is that it is an archive and it shouldn't be altered.

If you do that and you did not extract the library when you opened the PLA, then the library will still link to the original PLA file.

Delete or move that PLA file and the library link will be missing.

However, if you do want to work on the file, extract the library, and the file will now link to that extracted library when you save it (if you can save it).

It will become a PLN file with a linked library to that extracted library folder.

You can leave the archive file as it is - an archive of that file at a certain point in time.

Barry.

Re: Warning! Cannot find some Library Parts or Internal Macros.

Barry Kelly — Fri, 05 Jul 2024 01:12:03 GMT

Including the loaded library should include the entire library, not just those objects used in the project.

It will be a much bigger file.

No harm in ticking all of the boxes (except for the bigger file).

Barry.

Re: Warning! Cannot find some Library Parts or Internal Macros.

ilasmile87 — Fri, 05 Jul 2024 09:24:25 GMT

Good morning.
I extracted the libraries when I opened the .pla file.
Even though I was given a new .pla file with all the save flags selected, the number of warnings actually increased.
The .pla file is 1.26 GigaBytes large, while the extracted libraries are 1.62 GigaBytes. A huge amount of information for a trivial project. Yet there are 447 warnings.
Yesterday, with the .pla file saved with the default flags, I had 364 warnings.

I tried saving the .pla file, in the same folder with a different name.
I get this error.

If I save the file as .pln I get no errors. However, I would prefer to keep the .pla extension.
What can I do?

Re: Warning! Cannot find some Library Parts or Internal Macros.

Barry Kelly — Fri, 05 Jul 2024 10:07:42 GMT

The file will be large because you have archived the entire loaded library.

Usually an archive will have just the objects used (the 'favourites' option - not the 'loaded libraries' option).

The extra errors seem to be duplicates.

What ever libraries were loaded in the original project would have the same errors.

You can not save a PLA file back as the same PLA file.

Seems you can not even save a PLA file as another PLA file with a different name.

You already have the PLA file - there is no need to save it again.

You save it as a PLN file to continue working.

The idea of a PLA file is it is a snap shot in time.

You are not supposed to alter them, what is the point of archiving them if you keep changing them?

Just save a PLN and load the necessary libraries.

Archiving a file stores the used object (or entire library) so that later you can open the file and not have to fins the old libraries that were used for the job.

In 10 years time you may no longer have access to those libraries - the archive file solves that.

If you are simply sharing a file so you can work on it, just use a PLN and ensure you have the correct libraries loaded.

If you don't have those libraries, then get the PLA with the 'loaded libraries' included (as you have done), extract the libraries as you open the file and save as a PLN and continue working on it.

Every time you save the file it will automatically save as a PLN anyway.

You don't want to keep doing 'Save As' and change the file type to PLA every time you save.

Only do that when you want to archive the file again.

Barry.

Re: Warning! Cannot find some Library Parts or Internal Macros.

ilasmile87 — Fri, 05 Jul 2024 10:48:00 GMT

I can save the file as .pln without any problems.
The fact is that I would like to edit the file, make some changes and then save everything as .pla, not as .pln.
This is to be able to maintain a complete archive, as you explained to me, that everyone can use even in 10 years' time.
I can't do this.

I need to make some changes to the file. When I make them I am forced to save them as .pln.

If I save, instead of saving as, the program immediately offers me .pln. It doesn't overwrite the old .pla.

Probably the same errors also appear to those who saved the .pla and, yesterday, the .pla with all the libraries inside.

However he managed to save it, despite the presence of errors!

Why can't I do it?

Re: Warning! Cannot find some Library Parts or Internal Macros.

Barry Kelly — Fri, 05 Jul 2024 10:59:23 GMT

Save it as a PLN and you need to sort out the problems with the library.

Missing favourites are not important - delete the favourites if you don't need them.

Missing from attributes just means there are som image files missing - the correct library was not loaded when saved as a PLA.

It looks like you have no missing objects which is good.

The duplicates you can expand and you will see the paths of the objects in the libraries.

It just means that you have multiple of the same objects loaded in the libraries.

Delete those and re-load the libraries and the errors will go away.

If the libraries are LCF (Library Container Files), you will have to extract them to be able to delete the objects.

It seems like who ever is saving the PLA file for you has not managed their libraries very well.

They will be having the same issues.

Once you have everything sorted and you have worked on the file, then you can 'Save As' a PLA file.

Barry.

Re: Warning! Cannot find some Library Parts or Internal Macros.

ilasmile87 — Fri, 05 Jul 2024 22:13:17 GMT

ok.
So first I save the file as .pln.
Then I have to delete all the warnings about the libraries.
I'm trying but I don't understand how to do it.
How do I delete them? It is full of design components that were not used in my model. They are all useless libraries for me. However, somewhere there are references to these libraries.
I don't understand how they get rid of it.

Then I can make the changes that interest me.

Finally, should I be able to save the file as .pla without errors?