topic Re: How do I model a 4 pane sliding window with a lower transom in Libraries & objects

How do I model a 4 pane sliding window with a lower transom

Leire Bilbao — Thu, 02 Jan 2025 14:32:51 GMT

I need to model this sliding window with 2 fixed panes and 2 sliders and a fixed lower transom, as per my picture.

I don't find the appropriate window in the library. Is there one? Can it be done?

Operating system used: Mac Intel-based Sonoma 14

Re: How do I model a 4 pane sliding window with a lower transom

aarkell — Tue, 09 Apr 2024 15:44:59 GMT

I'm not sure there is an out of the box window that will meet your needs. You could build that from a couple different windows though and turn on ganging, but they would all schedule separately. Alternatively, you could use the curtain wall tool?

There may be third-party options such as Cadimage that could do that as a single window object though.

Re: How do I model a 4 pane sliding window with a lower transom

Barry Kelly — Wed, 10 Apr 2024 02:22:57 GMT

If you search in the window settings for 'sliding' then you will find 4 sash sliding windows there.

But as far as I know they have an option for a high-light, but not a low-light panel.

This image is from version 22 (all I have open at the moment) but is the same in newer versions.

As mentioned, you can 'gang' windows, use curtain wall or look for a 3rd party object.

Or another option is to create tour own window from slabs drawn in the plan and 'save as window object'.

Barry.

Re: How do I model a 4 pane sliding window with a lower transom

Lingwisyer — Wed, 10 Apr 2024 04:12:57 GMT

BUT

Double Window with 0.01 rebate and 0.1 center frame width. It will not allow you to actually zero any of the values, so you are stuck with a thin sliver which will show up on the inside and if you want to open the window...

Ling.

Re: How do I model a 4 pane sliding window with a lower transom

Barry Kelly — Wed, 10 Apr 2024 05:41:44 GMT

If you have the double window in your basic windows folder ...

Extra images to show what Ling is saying.

That is painful to figure out, and even then still not perfect.

I am so glad I don't use those windows and have my own!

Barry.

Re: How do I model a 4 pane sliding window with a lower transom

Leire Bilbao — Wed, 10 Apr 2024 06:43:01 GMT

Hi Barry, I have done this but it doesn't allow the middle frame to be 0.1 it says the minimum to be 35mm, which is still visible so I still need to cover the elevations with 2D and it shows in 3D.

Hi Aarkell, the curtain wall works actually. I will see how they work with schedules and other things.

Thanks a lot to both

Is there any wish for more flexible windows and doors?

Re: How do I model a 4 pane sliding window with a lower transom

Lingwisyer — Wed, 10 Apr 2024 06:56:05 GMT

You need to reduce the Rebate first as the frame width cannot be less than it. Though as you have noticed, the plan is also a bit squiff... Seems that the 2D once you go below a set value (sash width plus EPS maybe?), it defaults to the right frame width anchored to the right.

There are a great many wishes spanning several versions over a great many years...

Re: How do I model a 4 pane sliding window with a lower transom

aarkell — Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:23:12 GMT

Definitely wish we had more flexibility with windows and doors, as Lingwisyer said there have been many wishes over the years. As mentioned in my earlier post, I think Cadimage has some good options but I've never used it myself as it requires an additional fee to use since it is a third-party add on.

Re: How do I model a 4 pane sliding window with a lower transom

Leire Bilbao — Thu, 11 Apr 2024 07:04:45 GMT

How does one vote on those wishes? I don't find the option to like, kudos or vote... I think flexibility for windows design is so important

Re: How do I model a 4 pane sliding window with a lower transom

Barry Kelly — Thu, 11 Apr 2024 07:19:55 GMT

You can like any post (except your own) by clicking on the thumb up icon.

But ideally if you want the wish to be considered, then a wish should be created in the 'Wishes' forum.

Search first as there may already be one.

And for those that are going to say those wishes don't mean anything, they are monitored.

And a new system is being developed, and no, I don't know when.

Barry.

Re: How do I model a 4 pane sliding window with a lower transom

Leire Bilbao — Fri, 12 Apr 2024 09:31:37 GMT

OK, I have created a wish, although I can't find it now. Does it need to be approved?

Re: How do I model a 4 pane sliding window with a lower transom

Barry Kelly — Fri, 12 Apr 2024 09:42:47 GMT

There are no new wishes and nothing in the quarantine folder.

Generally posts don't need approval unless they have web links in them.

Maybe you accidentally hit cancel instead of post (I do that often!).

Barry.

Re: How do I model a 4 pane sliding window with a lower transom

Leire Bilbao — Fri, 12 Apr 2024 09:49:36 GMT

You were right!

I have posted it now.

Thank you very much everyone

Re: How do I model a 4 pane sliding window with a lower transom

qbic-ft — Thu, 18 Apr 2024 21:25:12 GMT

I usually use CI tools windows and doors when I don't have what I want out of the box

Re: How do I model a 4 pane sliding window with a lower transom

Patrick M — Thu, 18 Apr 2024 21:43:04 GMT

custom window

library part maker

cadimage

don't expect AC doors and windows to do anything you cant buy off the shelf at home depot

Re: How do I model a 4 pane sliding window with a lower transom

Patrick M — Thu, 18 Apr 2024 21:45:06 GMT

sometimes I'll model different pieces of the unit with different windows/doors and only use them as the model and plan symbol, then make an empty opening as the scheduled/tagged element and put all the data in that
it's a stupid clunky work-around that I have to use when I'm working with clients not using cadimage... but it can work

Re: How do I model a 4 pane sliding window with a lower transom

Leire Bilbao — Fri, 19 Apr 2024 07:03:01 GMT

OK, thanks everyone for every contribution.

My conclusion is that it can't be done properly. There is a few workarounds but it's not ideal.

That is why I have created this wish:

https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Wishes/More-flexible-design-for-Windows-and-Doors/m-p/598963#M24771

Please click "like" if you agree

Re: How do I model a 4 pane sliding window with a lower transom

Lingwisyer — Fri, 19 Apr 2024 08:12:10 GMT

Still waiting for them to reintroduce wish voting...