topic Re: Custom door leafs disappearing in Libraries & objects

Custom door leafs disappearing

Curtis Sorenson — Tue, 19 Dec 2023 02:31:01 GMT

Hey ArchiCAD enthusiasts!

I've been absolutely enamored with ArchiCAD lately, and I'm usually the first to recommend it. However, I've hit a bit of a snag and could use your collective brilliance.

My particular woe lies in the realm of custom door leafs, specifically garage door leafs. Now, I know the sleek glass garage door panels are all the rage these days, but alas, Graphisoft hasn't caught up with the trend.

After attempting to create a custom leaf and adding it to my embedded library, I'm faced with the peculiar situation of seeing it in my library but finding it mysteriously absent in 2D/3D views. Yes, I've combed through overrides and renovation filters, but the phantom door remains.

So, ArchiCAD gurus, can you shed some light on why this might be happening? Perhaps share a workaround or solution? I've even considered starting a support group for those of us yearning for barn doors in the library options!

Let's pool our expertise and make ArchiCAD even greater together. Screenshots attached for your sleuthing pleasure.

Thanks a million!

Re: Custom door leafs disappearing

Barry Kelly — Fri, 15 Dec 2023 00:53:20 GMT

The 2 door leafs are in your embedded library - that is good.

Your Library manager shows 1850 warnings - not so good.

I would say lot of duplicate objects judging by the folders with "(1)' in their names.

Delete the duplicates - this may help.

When you go into the garage door settings, do you have the option to see those custom door leafs in a list of available custom leafs?

If not then that is a problem with the file that contains those door leaf names.

I believe the file is in your user profile somewhere - I will have to do some research to find exactly where if that is the case.

There are some old posts here about it - just a matter of finding them.

If those custom leafs are there, then I would clean up all the warnings in the Library Manager first to see if that helps.

Barry.

Re: Custom door leafs disappearing

Lingwisyer — Fri, 15 Dec 2023 01:46:06 GMT

This one: https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Libraries-objects/Duplicate-Library-Item-Door-Leaf/m-p/233144#M3476 ?

Do the door leafs show in the preview?

Re: Custom door leafs disappearing

mthd — Fri, 15 Dec 2023 03:18:45 GMT

Have you tried searching BIM objects for garage door options ?

CI tools has an add on interface for custom windows and doors.

Please see link below.

https://cadimage.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/205610224-How-to-change-the-Panel-Layout-of-a-Tilt-Panel-Door

Re: Custom door leafs disappearing

Ivan Myers — Mon, 26 Aug 2024 21:00:00 GMT

Barry,

I am having the same problem right now. Custom door leaf shows up in the available leafs, but the preview is empty and so is the actual door in the model.

I've made custom leafs before and had success. Any Ideas?

Thanks.

Re: Custom door leafs disappearing

Barry Kelly — Tue, 27 Aug 2024 00:19:31 GMT

@Ivan Myers wrote:

Custom door leaf shows up in the available leafs, but the preview is empty and so is the actual door in the model.

So in your door object, you can see a list of available custom leaves, but even when you choose one they do not show in the object preview or in the model.

Could it be duplicates in your library or maybe you created the door leafs in a newer version of Archicad and are trying to open them in an older version (I am just guessing)?

Try saving a new custom door leaf with a unique name and see if that works.

If it does, I would be suspecting duplicate objects loaded or something is wrong with those custom leaf objects.

If not, then I have no idea.

Barry.

Re: Custom door leafs disappearing

Ivan Myers — Tue, 27 Aug 2024 03:09:48 GMT

Thanks for getting back to me. (I'm using AC 26 by the way).

So I made some real simple Test doors Leafs saved at "Test Door" and the same thing happens. The New custom door leaf is an option in the door tool, but fails to populate. They do however sow the handle if chosen. I just looked in my embedded library for duplicates (found nothing) Deleted all the ones I made and Saved a new one with new name. Same thing happened.

I Opened a new empty PLN. Made the door leaf from scratch, Same thing.

I converted the slabs to morphs and it worked. So at least I"m moving past this for now.

Thanks

Ivan

Re: Custom door leafs disappearing

Ivan Myers — Tue, 27 Aug 2024 03:28:51 GMT

I spoke to soon. It worked in the new blank file but not in the project i'm working on. So who knows.

Re: Custom door leafs disappearing

Lingwisyer — Tue, 27 Aug 2024 03:36:54 GMT

Does the Session Report say anything when you place the door?

Re: Custom door leafs disappearing

Barry Kelly — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 10:43:11 GMT

So just to clarify, you see the custom leaf in the list but it does not show in the object?

If it is not showing in the list, then that is the file in the library that contains all of the names (I mentioned in post above) that is not updating.

I know where the file is in the library, but it is in an LCF file, so you can't just delete it.

Deleting it is fine because it will just be created again.

You could open it to see if your door leaf is in there.

This file is also duplicated in your user profile.

The problem there is, those user folders are hidden, so you won't be able to see it unless you un-hide the folder in your operating system.

I am on Windows and I just happen to have version 22 running at the moment.

For me it is here ...

Maybe deleting that file will refresh everything when you re-load the library.

Barry.

Re: Custom door leafs disappearing

Ivan Myers — Tue, 27 Aug 2024 17:22:31 GMT

Thanks again.

To be clear Yes the door leaf does show up in the list of available custom leaf options. In Plan view it shows as well. But not in a 3D view or Elevation. And not in the "preview" window of the tool settings.

I'll See if I can find the LCF file and delete it later. Its taken to much time time so its time to Hack it. Its almost like the thing is hidden. But I went back and checked renovation settings on the original slabs, all are set to new.

Thanks

Ivan

Re: Custom door leafs disappearing

Barry Kelly — Wed, 28 Aug 2024 01:55:07 GMT

Don't delete any LCF file.

It is only the individual 'Door_Panel_Collection' file that is the problem.

But in your case it is not the problem at all, because you say you can see the door leaf names in the list.

That means it is all working OK.

I would suspect it is a problem with the door leaf object itself, but what that could be I don't know without seeing one of the door leaf objects.

You could attach one (that doesn't work) to a post here and I could have a look at it.

Barry.

Re: Custom door leafs disappearing

Ivan Myers — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 16:58:10 GMT

I would but i'm not sure how to attach a .gsm file? I get a "not Supported" message when I try.

Re: Custom door leafs disappearing

Barry Kelly — Fri, 30 Aug 2024 14:55:28 GMT

In the Library Manager you will see the custom door leaf object.

Save it out to your hard drive and then you should be able to drag and drop it in the panel below the reply or you can browse for it.

Barry.

Re: Custom door leafs disappearing

Ivan Myers — Fri, 06 Sep 2024 12:07:35 GMT

Thanks Barry,

I thought I did that but let me try again.

Nope.... see attached screen shot of the message. appears the file type is the issue?

Re: Custom door leafs disappearing

Barry Kelly — Wed, 04 Sep 2024 01:56:14 GMT

Strange because I managed to attach a GSM file (although I did get error messages sometimes).

Fail-safe it to just add it to a ZIP file and then attach the ZIP file - they are definitely allowed.

Barry.

Re: Custom door leafs disappearing

Ivan Myers — Wed, 04 Sep 2024 17:05:34 GMT

I changed to Chrome and now it works. Safari.. I need to quit it.

The Zip is attached thanks for looking into this.

Ivan

Re: Custom door leafs disappearing

Barry Kelly — Thu, 05 Sep 2024 01:40:31 GMT

Thanks for the file.

I would never have figured it out without it.

You must have had a 3D cutting plane active when you saved the object?

Because there is one in the script.

As soon as I comment it out, your object works.

I created the same door and you can see in my attempt there is no 'CUTPLANE' command.

So open the object script and comment out or delete the lines I have highlighted.

Then save the object and it should all be good.

Barry.

Re: Custom door leafs disappearing

Ivan Myers — Thu, 05 Sep 2024 17:31:58 GMT

OK wow, I've never gotten into the scrip, but I'll give it a try. Could I also just make a new object and make sure there are no cutting planes active when I do?

Thanks again for spending time on this. I'll give it a shot later today.

Ivan

Re: Custom door leafs disappearing

Barry Kelly — Fri, 06 Sep 2024 00:51:04 GMT

@Ivan Myers wrote:

Could I also just make a new object and make sure there are no cutting planes active when I do?

Sure.

That is exactly what I did.

I re-created your door myself and there were no cutting planes.

Barry.