topic Re: Need Pocket door in Libraries & objects

Need Pocket door

Eric Milberger — Tue, 26 Nov 2024 15:31:47 GMT

I need a sliding POCKET door - cannot find one and cannot modify the sliding door to the center of the wall

Operating system used: Windows 11

Re: Need Pocket door

Jeff Thompson — Tue, 26 Nov 2024 18:06:59 GMT

What version are you using?

In AC27 the library folder under Archicad Library 27/08 Openings 26/08 30 00 Specialty Doors & Frames 27/Sliding Doors 27... Has "D1 Pocket 27" and "D2 Pocket 27".

In AC28 the library folder under Object Library/08 Openings/08 30 00 Specialty Doors & Frames/Sliding Doors... Has "D1 Pocket" and "D2 Pocket".

Re: Need Pocket door

Karl Ottenstein — Tue, 26 Nov 2024 18:14:49 GMT

And as a PS to Jeff's answer pointing you to the right place... remember that for the last 10 or so years (maybe longer?) the various library-centric tool Settings windows have had a Search function. Open the Door Settings dialog and enter "Pocket" in the top/search field...

Re: Need Pocket door

Eric Milberger — Tue, 26 Nov 2024 18:18:33 GMT

I have 27 and there is no pocket door

Re: Need Pocket door

Karl Ottenstein — Tue, 26 Nov 2024 18:23:26 GMT

Did you even try to follow Jeff's instructions? It's exactly where he says it is (in the USA library --- which is what you are presumably running - although you should preface every question to make sure people know that). See Screenshot from 27 USA:

Re: Need Pocket door

Karl Ottenstein — Tue, 26 Nov 2024 18:24:44 GMT

And here is the result of a Search:

Re: Need Pocket door

Jeff Thompson — Tue, 26 Nov 2024 18:31:05 GMT

I'd like you to do a comparison. Can you open the following folder...

C:\Program Files\GRAPHISOFT\Archicad 27\Archicad Library 27\... If you select the Object Library 27.lcf file and right click and select properties... Are you seeing the same file size as mine? See image below...

If you are, then you should be seeing the pocket door. If you have a different file size, you might need to reload Archicad. This is the best suggestion I can come up with... Good luck.

Re: Need Pocket door

Eric Milberger — Wed, 04 Dec 2024 20:48:17 GMT

Below is the v27 template pocket door.

THIS IS NOT A POCKET DOOR

Re: Need Pocket door

Eric Milberger — Tue, 26 Nov 2024 18:35:07 GMT

In Version 27 - and this is from the template and this is NOT a pocket door

Re: Need Pocket door

Eric Milberger — Wed, 27 Nov 2024 00:52:48 GMT

The picture above should be correct however when I open the template - this is what is delivered and it is not a pocket door.

Re: Need Pocket door

Karl Ottenstein — Tue, 26 Nov 2024 18:38:27 GMT

Well, you may not like it, but it is what we've had for 20+ years... with a bug that they never fix: all you have to do is modify the door panel offset to get it into the wall cavity. Why they've never managed to do that / fix that in all these years with more bug reports than you can count is something for them to respond to.

The plus that you see - looking for silver lining - is that it lets you do the 'barn style' external sliding door that seems so popular (in spite of letting noise, dust and light through)...albeit without a track.

Re: Need Pocket door

Karl Ottenstein — Tue, 26 Nov 2024 18:47:04 GMT

Yes, the offset - using the Reveal parameter - is annoying that we have to compute it ourselves based on our wall thickness...vs the door reading the wall thickness and doing the math based on door slab thickness. But, when adjusted, you get what you want as in this screenshot...

Re: Need Pocket door

Jeff Thompson — Wed, 04 Dec 2024 20:49:24 GMT

Karl is correct. I placed my pocket door in a 5 1/2" wall and adjusted the Reveal to Wall Face setting to 2 1/2". That looked good to me for the representation of a pocket door. It might take some time to get to know all the settings in the Pocket Door Selection Settings, but by making the necessary changes to the settings, it should produce a pretty good representation. As always, I'm happy to help in any way that I can. Good luck.

Re: Need Pocket door

Eric Milberger — Thu, 28 Nov 2024 17:38:16 GMT

Thanks everyone it works fine. Just the terms for what was needed to change is foreign.

Re: Need Pocket door

Eric Milberger — Thu, 28 Nov 2024 18:33:44 GMT

I guess what threw me off was that out of the box it was not a slinding door. Maybe it should be delivered wiht setting pr a change that the default is actually a sliding door by default.

Re: Need Pocket door

Karl Ottenstein — Thu, 28 Nov 2024 19:28:29 GMT

@Eric Milberger wrote:

I guess what threw me off was that out of the box it was not a slinding door. Maybe it should be delivered wiht setting pr a change that the default is actually a sliding door by default.

It is a sliding door by default... the door panel is just outside the wall. It has a hotspot to let you adjust the sliding position, the only way it can move. Not sure what you're trying to say?