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Hide windows and doors in 3D massing model

Anonymous — Fri, 26 May 2023 09:33:16 GMT

Is there a way to hide windows and doors in 3D so as to have a simplified massing model (set model view options allows us to hide doors & window in plan for reflected ceiling plans but not in 3D)

Re: Hide windows and doors in 3D massing model

David Larrew — Sat, 27 Oct 2007 05:11:29 GMT

Depends on which Window/Door Objects you are using. The standard AC 11 Doors/Windows have a parameter to adjust the 3D level of detail (Detailed, Simple, Off).

Re: Hide windows and doors in 3D massing model

Thomas Holm — Sat, 27 Oct 2007 05:42:34 GMT

You've got the View>Elements In 3D>Filter Elements dialog...

Re: Hide windows and doors in 3D massing model

Link — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:58:59 GMT

Unfortunately both of these methods will still show the wallholes. I don't know of any way to eliminate them too.

You may have to use a zone instead? Or just temporarily delete them?

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Hide windows and doors in 3D massing model

Anonymous — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:27:43 GMT

Thanks everyone,

Filter elements in 3D would have been perfect since it could be simply saved as a view without making any changes to the model itself.

Added as a wish
http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=19655

Re: Hide windows and doors in 3D massing model

Barry Kelly — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 02:28:34 GMT

Link wrote:
Unfortunately both of these methods will still show the wallholes. I don't know of any way to eliminate them too.

You may have to use a zone instead? Or just temporarily delete them?

Cheers,
Link.

The scripts of the doors/windows could be adjusted so they don't show the wallhole either if detail level is set to "Off".

The trick is to define a very small wallhole and then end.
If no wallhole is defined then it will assume the same size and width as the widow parameters.
Something like this at the beginning of the 3D script :-

IF detail_level = "Off" then
Wallhole 4,1,
0,0,1,
0.0001,0,1,
0.0001,0.0001,1,
0,0.0001,1
END
ENDIF

This could even be linked to one of the Model View Options so they can be turned on/off on mass.

Barry.

Re: Hide windows and doors in 3D massing model

Anonymous — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 03:10:56 GMT

Hello Barry,
How do you link to one of the Model View Options so they can be turned on/off on mass ? A new global or request perhaps ?
Thanks,
Peter Devlin

Re: Hide windows and doors in 3D massing model

Anonymous — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 11:37:11 GMT

Model View Options? No!
This method was older versions.

Re: Hide windows and doors in 3D massing model

Barry Kelly — Tue, 25 Apr 2023 23:15:25 GMT

Peter wrote:
Hello Barry,
How do you link to one of the Model View Options so they can be turned on/off on mass ? A new global or request perhaps ?
Thanks,
Peter Devlin

Hello Peter,
It is just a matter of requesting the state of the model view option in the script.

You can use :

REQUEST ("window_show_dim", "", show) REQUEST ("door_show_dim", "", show) in version 9 and above and in version 11 you can use : REQUEST ("floor_plan_option","",storyViewpointType)

For example

n = REQUEST ("floor_plan_option","",storyViewpointType) if storyViewpointType= 1 then Wallhole 4,1, 0,0,1, 0.0001,0,1, 0.0001,0.0001,1, 0,0.0001,1 END endif

I guess you could use other requests as well but these are simple because they return a value of 1 or 0.

Of course you need to be sure that the model veiw option you are using does not affect your plan in ways that you don't like.
i.e don't use the door/window show dimension option if you still want to see the door/window dimensions on plan.
But if you are hiding the doors/windows for the 3D model the dimensions on plan probably don't matter.

Barry.

Re: Hide windows and doors in 3D massing model

Anonymous — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 03:09:09 GMT

Hello Barry,
Thank you. I had forgotten about those requests.
Peter Devlin

Re: Hide windows and doors in 3D massing model

Steve Jepson — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:53:36 GMT

or just use a zone for massing model with seo if needed. 3D text works well on a zone for SEO.

Re: Hide windows and doors in 3D massing model

Anonymous — Sun, 16 Jan 2011 12:18:32 GMT

Hello,

Now I'm facing this problem right now.

I want to make a plan, 1:500. In this scale, I don't want doors and windows. In SET MODEL view, I'm selecting:

Door and Window, hide in floor plan.

I also hide door handles and knobs.

But I still can see the wallholes.

Filter Elements in 3D also shows the wallholes.

Is there any way to hide the wallholes? If I activate the doors and windows, the plan has a lot of unnecesary information. I will show doors and windows in another scale.

I hope in AC14 this has been solved.

Thank you to anybody who can help me. 🙂

Re: Hide windows and doors in 3D massing model

Anonymous — Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:43:10 GMT

Diana wrote:
Hello,

Now I'm facing this problem right now.

I want to make a plan, 1:500. In this scale, I don't want doors and windows. In SET MODEL view, I'm selecting:

Door and Window, hide in floor plan.

I also hide door handles and knobs.

But I still can see the wallholes.

This is how it is intended to work. The point of turning off the doors and windows is either to reduce complexity for speed of working in 3D or for framing models where they are excess clutter.

Filter Elements in 3D also shows the wallholes.

Is there any way to hide the wallholes? If I activate the doors and windows, the plan has a lot of unnecesary information. I will show doors and windows in another scale.

I hope in AC14 this has been solved.

I don't think there has ever been a request for this so as yet it is not considered a problem to be solved.

Thank you to anybody who can help me. 🙂

The only quick fix I can think of is to make a copy of the model, either a duplicate within the same file or a copy of the file, and delete all the doors and windows from the copy.

Re: Hide windows and doors in 3D massing model

Anonymous — Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:52:22 GMT

Matthew wrote:
I don't think there has ever been a request for this so as yet it is not considered a problem to be solved.

I can't believe it... a 1:500 plan can have the same detail as a 1:100 plan... and this way, has the same.

Matthew wrote:
The only quick fix I can think of is to make a copy of the model, either a duplicate within the same file or a copy of the file, and delete all the doors and windows from the copy.

If I would like to do this, I would be working with AutoCAD, not with a BIM application.

Air-Lux Special sliding Windows by Mara Dascoli has done the trick. They are amazing, they are REALLY scale sensitive, and really provides with different data in different scales.

I hope default archiCAD objects soon behave as this ones.

Thank you all for your replies. I really appreciate the help from this community. 🙂

Re: Hide windows and doors in 3D massing model

Emilien — Tue, 18 Apr 2023 14:56:03 GMT

If someone is still looking for a way without deleting :

door tool -> Ctrl+A

window tool -> Ctrl+A

Renovation filters -> Demolition

No windows no doors and no wallholes