topic Re: door trim issue in Complex Profiled Wall in Libraries & objects

door trim issue in Complex Profiled Wall

Anonymous — Fri, 26 May 2023 09:29:10 GMT

Hope someone might have an idea on what might be causing this weird door casing stand off on a Complex Profile wall?
It is a D1-12, but happens with other doors also.
Trim only stands off on one side, opposite of swing of any door.
Seems I've gotten this solved once before, but looking at parameters for wall and door, I have not been able to locate it, yet....
Thanks
Bier

Re: door trim issue

Anonymous — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:54:26 GMT

Check the Opening Reference in the Profile Editor for that wall type. Curious though that the jamb is unaffected.

Re: door trim issue

Karl Ottenstein — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:42:29 GMT

I have been running into many instances of strange behavior of door and window trim (and sometimes frame) with the 12 library, even with proper opening reference lines. I've sent a file to GS with a number of examples, but I think it would be helpful if more people posted problems they are having with complex profiled walls here.

With proper reference lines and with wall embellishments at base and crown, I found that in some cases, doors/windows would only place themselves in the wall properly if they were lifted above the base or below the crown. Some elements cut the crown properly and not the base; others cut the base properly and not the crown.

I have not found a workaround. 😞

So...if other readers are running into problems, please post a screenshot of your issue and identify which library part is involved and where your opening reference lines are in the profile editor.

Thanks,
Karl

Re: door trim issue in Complex Profiled Wall

Karl Ottenstein — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:48:04 GMT

As an example, here's a screenshot showing part of my bug testing file with a very exagerated wall profile (huge base and crown). The opening reference lines are against the face of the wall, not the outside of the mouldings.

You can see that the door brings the frame and casing to the outside face of the base moulding when the door is inserted at the base of the wall, where it belongs. When moved into the wall, or even up into the crown, the door appearance is correct - and the crown is even cut.

(Windows had the opposite behavior - they would cut the base moulding, but not the crown.)

Re: door trim issue in Complex Profiled Wall

Karl Ottenstein — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:49:38 GMT

And, here's another one with a goofy wall profile showing that even intermediate bumps in the profile are ignored ... it is the depth of the base 'moulding' (on only one side!) that is recognized by the door as the wall depth.

Anyone else running into these kinds of things?

Thanks,
Karl

Re: door trim issue in Complex Profiled Wall

vfrontiers — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:03:18 GMT

YES... Windows too.

Re: door trim issue in Complex Profiled Wall

Anonymous — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:16:42 GMT

Update:
My C.P. reference opening line was away from my C.P. wall edge, now corrected, but unfortunately that was not the problem, (I did a double check
on that).
However, have now worked with the D1 door some more and found out:
1. If I set the height of the bottom of my door 1/8" (or more) above top of slab all goes back to normal.
2. If I then try to lower the door back to 0" from the dialog box, the casing goes wack again.
3. However, I can drag the door down below the slab even an inch or two to negative numbers and casing stays ok.
4. Then tried to raise door bottom back to 0" in dialog box and door goes wack again!
5. And, if I set the bottom of door to a neg number, all is ok also!!
So, my conclusion is that D1 12 (or others) mostly do not like 0"
Bier

Re: door trim issue in Complex Profiled Wall

Karl Ottenstein — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:02:33 GMT

Thanks for studying the elevation issue, Bier. I've pointed tech support to this thread, so I hope you and others post any other discoveries here that may help the developers understand the problem and get a fix to us soon.

Thanks,
Karl

Re: door trim issue in Complex Profiled Wall

William Yan — Sat, 02 Apr 2022 14:58:25 GMT

I think it is related with this thread on our forum.

https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Design-forum/Complex-profile-wall-door-plan/m-p/242906#M129182