topic Re: How to get good moldings for windows and doors in Libraries & objects

How to get good moldings for windows and doors

Anonymous — Fri, 26 May 2023 09:25:34 GMT

Hi,

In my current project I'm working on a house from 1900 and the moldings
in this house is from around 1900.
In the ArchiCAD library we have moldings for the ceiling and floor, but
nothing for windows and doors, or am I wrong?
In the door- and window-settings we can check moldings for inside and
outside, but those are to simple/modern for this project.

I'm not very good in GDL. Does anyone have a tip on how to get the right
moldingtype for my project?

I want something like this:

Re: How to get good moldings for windows and doors

Anonymous — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:14:16 GMT

You can build them up from profiled columns and beams.

Depending on the head casing details these may be enough and you can group and copy them around the project. You can also save the assemblies as a modules and so you can revise all instances later by editing and re-saving the module.

If the head details involve miters or arches you will need to model the assemblies flat and save them as library parts. Little or no scripting should be needed though.

Re: How to get good moldings for windows and doors

Erika Epstein — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:41:56 GMT

Reeves,
As a student you can download free archicad add-ons by 3rd parties. I would recommend Objective. You will find it invaluable and it will do what you want here. Ralph Wessel from the company is very active here on ACtalk and can assist you if you post questions about it.

When you can, play with the custom profile that Matthew mentions. It is also invaluable to get to know the program

After i posted I found what I was looking for. In the library there are also some Moldings, window headers and architraves. Set your library to search (v. folder view or subtype).

Re: How to get good moldings for windows and doors

Anonymous — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:04:37 GMT

Thanks to both of you. This forum is really great!
I'm downloading Objective now

Re: How to get good moldings for windows and doors

Anonymous — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:22:19 GMT

I've never installed ad-ons so I need a little help here...
I've installed Objective, but I can't make it work. I've followed the Read Me-
manual.
I use AC 13 and downloaded the Objective-verson that should work with AC 13.
But it doesn't seem to work. It says the file is outdated.

Check the screenshot:

Re: How to get good moldings for windows and doors

Ralph Wessel — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 22:00:41 GMT

Reeves wrote:
I use AC 13 and downloaded the Objective-verson that should work with AC 13.
But it doesn't seem to work. It says the file is outdated.

Which platform are you using? Primarily, is it a 32-bit or 64-bit version of Windows? Check that you have downloaded the equivalent version of OBJECTiVE, i.e. 32-bit/64-bit. If you install the wrong version, ArchiCAD will refuse to load it.

Re: How to get good moldings for windows and doors

Anonymous — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:06:29 GMT

I use 32 bit and I downloaded the 64 bit version, hehe.
So I'm downloading the right one now

Thanks again!

Re: How to get good moldings for windows and doors

Steve Jepson — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:33:14 GMT

Reeves,
Quite often you can go to the manufactures web site and download the exact profiles of the casings, moldings, and trim that will be used wich might save you the time of drawing them.

One process I use to do this is something like this: Use the Profiler tool to extrude the casing or other profile around the opening you want to case. Now view that molding from the top in 3d and save it as a .gsm object. Place the new object in plan view. Adjust placement in elevation view as needed.

I don't think it would be very difficult to add an option to door and window objects that would let you choose the casing profile to be used. ?

Re: How to get good moldings for windows and doors

Anonymous — Sun, 27 Mar 2011 08:53:39 GMT

Hi, I have the same issue with the installation of Objective. Only I have now tried both versions (64 and 32) and neither works so that is not the problem. Anyone have a clue as to what it can be?

Re: How to get good moldings for windows and doors

Ralph Wessel — Sun, 27 Mar 2011 09:31:14 GMT

Svensdotter wrote:
Hi, I have the same issue with the installation of Objective. Only I have now tried both versions (64 and 32) and neither works so that is not the problem. Anyone have a clue as to what it can be?

If you have any problems with software from Encina, contact Encina directly for support through the contact page

Include details of your platform, including OS and ArchiCAD version. Also, ensure you downloaded the correct version of OBJECTiVE for your ArchiCAD version.

Re: How to get good moldings for windows and doors

Anonymous — Sun, 27 Mar 2011 16:49:11 GMT

Steve wrote:
I don't think it would be very difficult to add an option to door and window objects that would let you choose the casing profile to be used. ?

It's not as easy as you might imagine. It's certainly doable but requires advanced GDL skills along with detailed knowledge of trim details. Basic mitered casings are not too tough though.

Re: How to get good moldings for windows and doors

Anonymous — Mon, 28 Mar 2011 00:51:07 GMT

Cadimage Door+Windows addon can achieve this.

I also believe students can get it for free.

Here is a screenshot of a job I am currently working on.

Re: How to get good moldings for windows and doors

Anonymous — Mon, 28 Mar 2011 02:51:29 GMT

Danj wrote:
Cadimage Door+Windows addon can achieve this.

I'm not saying it can't be done. I've made many such libraries myself. It's just not as simple as you might imagine.

Re: How to get good moldings for windows and doors

Karl Ottenstein — Mon, 28 Mar 2011 04:10:48 GMT

Matthew wrote:
Steve wrote:
I don't think it would be very difficult to add an option to door and window objects that would let you choose the casing profile to be used. ?
It's not as easy as you might imagine. It's certainly doable but requires advanced GDL skills along with detailed knowledge of trim details. Basic mitered casings are not too tough though.

I don't know that Steve was suggesting that we users accomplish this. (Steve?) IMHO, this is something that Graphisoft should have done long ago. It is actually reasonably simple, as you know Matthew, as all trim is generated by a macro deep in the window/door macro hierarchy. (At least for the US lib, everything is generated by the same super-macros these days, not scattered about as in old versions.) Just as they have custom components for door slabs, handles, etc - it would not be a great leap to allow for a trim profile that is extruded in the macro which now just generates slabs.

I doubt if this is a priority for GS. I don't think there is a wishlist poll for this feature?

Cheers,
Karl

Re: How to get good moldings for windows and doors

Erich — Mon, 28 Mar 2011 04:31:37 GMT

There was the recent (US) window/door survey. I know I mentioned this lack in my response. If enough others did as well, perhaps it is now a higher priority.