topic Re: Electric/Automatic Doors on Plan in Libraries & objects

Electric/Automatic Doors on Plan

Anonymous — Fri, 26 May 2023 09:25:06 GMT

Hi,

The project I'm currently working on has large automatic doors at the entrance. What is the typical way of showing these on plan i.e do I use a standard door line that is shown below or is there a different way of showing that they open across the wall, not into it ?

Thank You

Re: Electric/Automatic Doors on Plan

Erika Epstein — Wed, 05 May 2010 14:42:34 GMT

I'm not sure what you are asking

Re: Electric/Automatic Doors on Plan

Anonymous — Wed, 05 May 2010 15:25:36 GMT

Well, nn a standard hinged door the plan shows the direction of which the door swings open ( 1st post is an attachment of this ). On an automatic electric door which obviously don't swing as they go ' on ' the wall means that there isn't a opening line for them. How do I show this on plan... it's still a door but it doesn't swing open

Thank You

Re: Electric/Automatic Doors on Plan

Erika Epstein — Wed, 05 May 2010 15:33:34 GMT

A screen shot of the graphic you want would have been helpful...
What about the following, showing the doors closed and then check the ghost opening option?

Re: Electric/Automatic Doors on Plan

Anonymous — Wed, 05 May 2010 17:15:53 GMT

Erika wrote:
A screen shot of the graphic you want would have been helpful...
What about the following, showing the doors closed and then check the ghost opening option?

I don't really know what I want though... I was just checking to see if automatic door are shown the same in plan, in terms of opening as normal hinged manual doors are

I wasn't sure if you would show 2 lines perpendicular to the door because it doesn't open into the building but rather onto the perimeter. ( wall that the door is fixed to )

I will probably use the graphic you've illustrated and see what my tutor says.

Also, do you know of any automatic doosr made for Archicad at all ( not sure if you could show this in 3D though ). I've searched a few of the GDL websites but didn't come across any. I'm currently using custom windows made in cadimage tools to illustrate the doors.
Thank You

Re: Electric/Automatic Doors on Plan

Anonymous — Wed, 05 May 2010 20:34:16 GMT

Are you talking about a sliding door?

Re: Electric/Automatic Doors on Plan

Erika Epstein — Wed, 05 May 2010 22:27:56 GMT

Nathan,
To me the term 'automatic door' refers to its operation. As you near a door you step on an activation pad and the door opens without you, the person, having to manually open it. Automatic doors can open in any way including swing, sliding or overhead.

This 'automatic' designation is in the door schedule, embedded in the door specification data. There is typically no visual difference from any other door in the model.

What does 'automatic' mean to you?

Re: Electric/Automatic Doors on Plan

Anonymous — Thu, 06 May 2010 00:07:41 GMT

NStocks wrote:
they open across the wall, not into it ?

NStocks wrote:
... don't swing as they go ' on ' the wall ... it's still a door but it doesn't swing open

Re: Electric/Automatic Doors on Plan

Anonymous — Thu, 06 May 2010 07:21:01 GMT

Sorry, Automatic to me means sliding because the moajoiry of automatic doors are sliding.

Hopefully this will make things make sense

Thank You

Re: Electric/Automatic Doors on Plan

Anonymous — Thu, 06 May 2010 08:37:51 GMT

Here in the states most automatic doors swing. Some do slide but we also have plenty of overhead and rotating ones too.

Re: Electric/Automatic Doors on Plan

Steve Jepson — Fri, 28 May 2010 19:40:03 GMT

I wish there was an ArchiCAD door like this.

http://www.stanleyaccesstechnologies.com/pdf/dg3000/PG1-2-17.PDF

something that would show breakout lines etc... I end up making my own and they are not so well made as a GDL guru could do it.