topic Re: placing doors and windows in Libraries & objects

placing doors and windows

Anonymous — Fri, 26 May 2023 09:38:58 GMT

in ac10 after merging walls to form a complex profile i can not get doors and windows to appear when i place them in my custom complex profile. has this been encountered before and is there a fix available?

Re: placing doors and windows

TomWaltz — Thu, 13 Jul 2006 21:30:50 GMT

Are your doors/windows at a height that shows on the current story?

I've seen a lot of instances where windows are being placed at 6'-8".... relative to a floor three levels above the current one.

Re: placing doors and windows

Anonymous — Thu, 13 Jul 2006 21:43:18 GMT

i do have multiple stories but i am indeed on the correct story, the bottom of door is at 0 relative to my story (i just double checked) another part to this problem is that when placing a door an empty opening equal to the opening i made in the parameters dialog box appears with a blue dot in the middle and the dimensions of the door per usual, however the door symbol and swing does not appear, furthermore if i select the door and open the door tool i receive a warning "Index value greater than array dimension at line 156 in the Master script of file wa_trim_us_10.gsm." i am using ac10 doors from the out of box library not any doors that i have created

Re: placing doors and windows

Anonymous — Fri, 14 Jul 2006 00:30:15 GMT

When you speak of "merging walls" I assume you are referring to a profile wall.

I have also seen this problem with that particular GDL macro. It seems that wall skin definitions in the profiled walls are handled in way that the macro can't handle. That particular macro is elsewhere becoming known as "notorious".

Re: placing doors and windows

Anonymous — Fri, 14 Jul 2006 15:31:13 GMT

i used the merge wall function as follows; drew to walls parallel to each other (cmu wall with furring) then went to Design > Complex Profiles > Merge Walls. i gave it a name and this is what i have been referring to as "complex profile" or "profile wall"

Re: placing doors and windows

Anonymous — Sat, 15 Jul 2006 14:03:41 GMT

adamh wrote:
i used the merge wall function as follows; drew to walls parallel to each other (cmu wall with furring) then went to Design > Complex Profiles > Merge Walls. i gave it a name and this is what i have been referring to as "complex profile" or "profile wall"

That's what I thought. What I said before about some windows in the profiled walls still applies. Until the parts are fixed, the only solutions are to use a different window or figure a way to avoid using the profiled wall.

Re: placing doors and windows

Anonymous — Sat, 15 Jul 2006 15:15:57 GMT

Well...

I've got another solution.

I just fixed the wa_trim_us_10.gsm macro (attached).

It now seems to work with a profiled wall. I have only tested a single instance where I know it was failing and it now works fine in this one case. It should work in all profiled walls now. (There may be other problems with this part that are not fixed by this repair.)

To use it, you will need to extract the library container file and replace the old macro with this one. You can find it in the extracted library at:

//Object Library 10/MACROS 10/D-W Accessories 10/Window Accessories 10/Trim Macros 10

BTW: If you extract the library to the same folder it is already in you will need to remove the .lcf file or you will end up with over 7000 duplicate library parts.

Re: placing doors and windows

Anonymous — Sat, 15 Jul 2006 16:02:35 GMT

Hello Matthew,
May I ask what you did to fix the wa_trim_us_10.gsm macro ?
Peter Devlin

Re: placing doors and windows

Anonymous — Sat, 15 Jul 2006 22:25:15 GMT

Peter wrote:
Hello Matthew,
May I ask what you did to fix the wa_trim_us_10.gsm macro ?
Peter Devlin

I went to line 156 in the master script and found an IF statement that essentially said "If there is more than one wall skin assign all the following values..."

Apparently the profiled wall has more than one skin but not all eight that are assigned (used or not) to composites.

I just changed it to the following:

!! BRICK VENEER CALCULATION !!
ws1=WALL_SKINS_PARAMS[1][2]
IF WALL_SKINS_NUMBER >1 	THEN		ws2=WALL_SKINS_PARAMS[2][2]
IF WALL_SKINS_NUMBER >2 	THEN		ws3=WALL_SKINS_PARAMS[3][2]
IF WALL_SKINS_NUMBER >3 	THEN		ws4=WALL_SKINS_PARAMS[4][2]
IF WALL_SKINS_NUMBER >4 	THEN		ws5=WALL_SKINS_PARAMS[5][2]
IF WALL_SKINS_NUMBER >5 	THEN		ws6=WALL_SKINS_PARAMS[6][2]
IF WALL_SKINS_NUMBER >6 	THEN		ws7=WALL_SKINS_PARAMS[7][2]
IF WALL_SKINS_NUMBER >7 	THEN		ws8=WALL_SKINS_PARAMS[8][2]

This performs the identical function as far as composites are concerned so it shouldn't break anything that the part already does. It burns a few extra clock cycles, but I didn't feel like performance tuning it. Of course this doesn't mean that the trims will actually work in any predictable way with profiled walls, they just don't break the whole window.

Re: placing doors and windows

Anonymous — Sat, 15 Jul 2006 23:47:15 GMT

Hello Matthew,
Thank you for posting back and answering my question.
When you posted your fixed version I immediately
downloaded it and without hesitation replaced the one in my library,
thinking to myself if Matthew worked on it its got to be better.
I then thought to myself, man, Matthew Lohden has
a lot of guts to start fiddling with that macro that I have
looked at and have come away thoroughly daunted.

I salute you and thank you for making it work better.
Peter Devlin

Re: placing doors and windows

Anonymous — Sun, 16 Jul 2006 07:47:04 GMT

Peter wrote:
I salute you and thank you for making it work better.
Peter Devlin

My pleasure. Thanks for the compliment. It wasn't entirely altruistic of me. I have the problem on a project and faced the choice of telling someone they couldn't use the profile wall, or just fixing the window. Since he was previously a Revit beta tester, I didn't want to add any fuel to that fire.

Re: placing doors and windows

Anonymous — Mon, 17 Jul 2006 14:02:32 GMT

So is Peter the only person to have noticed this? I thought a fix to this part would be of more general interest.

NOTE: I am reposting here in case those who may be interested missed it so far.

Re: placing doors and windows

TomWaltz — Mon, 17 Jul 2006 14:23:20 GMT

I submitted a bug report on it and copied your code.... I just have not been back to actually work it in yet.

I'm glad you figured it out. I was not looking forward to it.

Re: placing doors and windows

Anonymous — Mon, 17 Jul 2006 14:27:45 GMT

TomWaltz wrote:
I submitted a bug report on it and copied your code...

Thanks Tom.

You know, it's funny that it didn't occur to me to report it as a bug. I guess I think of library parts as distinct from the ArchiCAD code in this respect, but of course a bug is a bug is a bug.

Re: placing doors and windows

TomWaltz — Mon, 17 Jul 2006 17:46:37 GMT

You don't happen to have a fix for the Group Error in Line 879 that comes up when a wall is mirrored, do you?

Re: placing doors and windows

Anonymous — Mon, 17 Jul 2006 18:44:49 GMT

TomWaltz wrote:
You don't happen to have a fix for the Group Error in Line 879 that comes up when a wall is mirrored, do you?

Is that in the same macro? I'll see if I can take a look at it.

Re: placing doors and windows

TomWaltz — Mon, 17 Jul 2006 18:51:43 GMT

Yep. That's also in "wa_trim_us 10"

Line 879 in the 3D script. It's a problem with a SUBGROUP command.

Re: placing doors and windows

Ransom Ratcliff — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 18:22:26 GMT

Matthew wrote:
So is Peter the only person to have noticed this? I thought a fix to this part would be of more general interest.

NOTE: I am reposting here in case those who may be interested missed it so far.

Matthew,
I was just pointed this direction and I also want to thank you for working on this macro. I think it is the #1 bug in the AC10 US library.

Since SE9 I have been trying to get GS to fix it but I just get excuses that the windows are so complex that these kinds of errors cannot be avoided.

Thanks again. I will test it ASAP. 🙂

PS. Has anyone tried the international library? Unfortunately it uses the same names for the objects, so we can't load it at the same time or with a project that already has AC10 US parts. 😞

Re: placing doors and windows

Anonymous — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 18:41:05 GMT

Hello Ransom,
Geoff Briggs has a copy of the INT library and says it is superior to the
US version.
see this link http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=64539&highlight=int#64539
Peter Devlin

Re: placing doors and windows

Ransom Ratcliff — Mon, 07 Aug 2006 14:57:15 GMT

I just want to say thanks again to Matthew for fixing this darned macro.
It fixed my problems and i would like to share an updated Object Library.lcf from our public ftp folder.

Best Regards,

Ransom