topic Re: common sense in Libraries & objects

common sense

KeesW — Fri, 26 May 2023 10:22:35 GMT

I wish AC used more common sense!

When I change a wall to a dashed demolition line type shouldn't doors and windows in those walls logically also change? But they don't - doors and windows have to be separately changed. Could an AC boffin please explain ANY circumstance where this might apply?

Is this a wish list item?

AC creates more work in lots of little ways by its (seemingly) deliberately dumb interpretation of user's requirements. Maybe it is straying too far from low level users, focussing on the spectacular but ignoring the mundane things that really drive productivity.

Re: common sense

Anonymous — Wed, 30 May 2007 23:03:00 GMT

KeesW wrote:
I wish AC used more common sense!

I vote Essential.

Re: common sense

Anonymous — Thu, 31 May 2007 00:04:34 GMT

AC creates more work in lots of little ways by its (seemingly) deliberately dumb interpretation of user's requirements. Maybe it is straying too far from low level users, focussing on the spectacular but ignoring the mundane things that really drive productivity.

I agree.

Re: common sense

TomWaltz — Thu, 31 May 2007 02:02:16 GMT

KeesW wrote:
I wish AC used more common sense!

When I change a wall to a dashed demolition line type shouldn't doors and windows in those walls logically also change? But they don't - doors and windows have to be separately changed. Could an AC boffin please explain ANY circumstance where this might apply?

No, they shouldn't. At least not automaticallly, because then the converse would be true: a wall that has solid lines would have to have openings with solid lines. I could see where the walls might have a "use line type of openings" and "use pens of openings", so you can either use the settings of the doors or windows or you could override them to match the wall.

Re: common sense

KeesW — Thu, 31 May 2007 12:26:35 GMT

Point taken. However, smart defaults, with options to change them for those who want to, would help many users.

Re: common sense

Anonymous — Thu, 31 May 2007 13:19:14 GMT

Everyone seems to want the program to automatically do everything they want it to but not anything they don't want. Unfortunately everyone wants different things and automatic functions are extremely annoying when they do something unwanted, unexpected, or worse, unknown. Take for example all of the lovely automatic functions in Word when MS seems to decide that they know better what you want than you do. Or how about the walls that automatically decide to change the story they are on? (Fortunately fixed in 11.)

No, I think GS should stick to making automatic only those basic functions that we all want (like composite intersections in plan and section) and leave it up to us to do the tweaks and adjustments peculiar to our particular practices. This of course also means making it easy for us to modify and customize the program to our particular needs. One of the most powerful features of ArchiCAD is the ability to create library parts that do exactly what you want, and only what you want, even if (especially if?) there is no one else on earth that does it the same way.

Re: common sense

Laura Yanoviak — Thu, 31 May 2007 14:20:23 GMT

Matthew wrote:
Everyone seems to want the program to automatically do everything they want it to but not anything they don't want. Unfortunately everyone wants different things and automatic functions are extremely annoying when they do something unwanted, unexpected, or worse, unknown.

I agree.

I also agree with Tom that the setting could be any option, but then we'd have more complaints about how the dialog boxes are getting so complex...