topic Re: Window Line Weight @ Wall Intersection AC10 in Libraries & objects

Window Line Weight @ Wall Intersection AC10

Anonymous — Fri, 26 May 2023 09:39:07 GMT

I have looked everywhere for a way to control the line weight of the intersection of Library 10 window / door with it's wall. There is this heavy line drawn at the intersection of wall. As per drawing. I can't get rid of it.

Anybody?

Thanks.

Re: Window Line Weight @ Wall Intersection AC10

Anonymous — Sun, 09 Jul 2006 19:07:44 GMT

The line weight for it is set to one (1). I can find no way to change it other than tweaking my penset....

Re: Window Line Weight @ Wall Intersection AC10

Anonymous — Sun, 09 Jul 2006 21:53:20 GMT

What window(s) are you using?

The heavy line is clearly being drawn by the window symbol. There should be a way to control this in the window settings dialog.

Re: Window Line Weight @ Wall Intersection AC10

Anonymous — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 01:20:14 GMT

It occurs on all AC10 library doors and windows.

It is linked to pen #1 but I can find no settting to control it. I have looked through every window / door setting I can think of. And even some that I can't...

To no avail.

Re: Window Line Weight @ Wall Intersection AC10

__archiben — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 02:51:42 GMT

g.h.design wrote:
It is linked to pen #1 but I can find no settting to control it. I have looked through every window / door setting I can think of. And even some that I can't...

have you tried the 'Cut Line Pen' under the 'Floor Plan and Section' panel of the settings dialogue?

~/archiben

Re: Window Line Weight @ Wall Intersection AC10

Anonymous — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 05:50:54 GMT

I have located where the problem is. It is the symbol line pen. If I turn off "Enable Object's Pens" all the line weights unify and the heavy line goes away. I can't find a single, seperate setting for that line alone...

Not in any of the parameter settings. I have tried changing them all.
Seems like maybe the pen is written to #1 permanently in the script as long as "Enable Object's Pens" is toggled on.

Re: Window Line Weight @ Wall Intersection AC10

Anonymous — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 06:05:02 GMT

have you tried the 'Cut Line Pen' under the 'Floor Plan and Section' panel of the settings dialogue?

~/archiben

Yeah, tried that. It's the Object's Pen setting. I think it is a bug. Can you replicate the problem? It pops up even if I start a new file using all Archicad defaults...

Re: Window Line Weight @ Wall Intersection AC10

Link — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 06:20:16 GMT

I have located where the problem is. It is the symbol line pen. If I turn off "Enable Object's Pens" all the line weights unify and the heavy line goes away. I can't find a single, seperate setting for that line alone...

I don't think that's the problem unfortunately. What you are looking for is the contour functionality that we had in our AC9 Library windows. It seems that the functionality disappeared with the SE9 Library.

I guess turning off the object's pens is the best workaround... around.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Window Line Weight @ Wall Intersection AC10

Anonymous — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 13:49:44 GMT

g.h.design wrote:
It occurs on all AC10 library doors and windows.

I can't get it to happen on any of the AC10 windows I have tried. Has anyone else reproduced this?

Re: Window Line Weight @ Wall Intersection AC10

Anonymous — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 14:57:20 GMT

Try setting the 2d plan view pens to a lighter weight than .30 mm and a color other than black and then you may see it.

If you can't replicate it then there must be a setting somewhere for it. I just can't find it.

Re: Window Line Weight @ Wall Intersection AC10

SeaGeoff — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:50:52 GMT

This a bug in the US doors and windows which have fallen behind the INT objects in terms of graphics and user interface despite having some nice features unavailable elsewhere, like exterior casing that can cut into exterior siding. I think the separate development of the US library, while well intentioned is not the best way to deliver features that reflect common North American practices. It dilutes resources and deprives users of what should be mutual benefits. And, as in this case, it makes bug tracking all the harder. Please take a look at my list, published here, that I've been working up with some other committed (or soon to be committed) users and see if you find the same issues. Specifically take a look at Plan symbol-->wrong wall line in the first section.

Re: Window Line Weight @ Wall Intersection AC10

Anonymous — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 21:47:27 GMT

Geoff,
I went to the link you posted and read what you had to say and
I must say I agree with all of what you say.
That is an impressive list.
Does the INT version have most of the same problems ?
Peter Devlin

Re: Window Line Weight @ Wall Intersection AC10

TomWaltz — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 21:51:14 GMT

How did you post what looks like an OmniOutliner file to a website like that??

Re: Window Line Weight @ Wall Intersection AC10

SeaGeoff — Tue, 11 Jul 2006 08:54:12 GMT

Peter wrote:
Does the INT version have most of the same problems ?

No. But it has a few of it's own. I encourage all US users to check out the INT library, especially with regard to the doors and windows. Unfortunately they cannot be loaded together.

TomWaltz wrote:
How did you post what looks like an OmniOutliner file to a website like that??

Circus Ponies NoteBook. As a Mac guy you really have to check it out:
http://www.circusponies.com/store/index.php?main_page=notebook&sub=organize

Re: Window Line Weight @ Wall Intersection AC10

Anonymous — Tue, 11 Jul 2006 20:21:00 GMT

Hello Geoff,
How does a US user obtain the INT library ?
Peter Devlin

Re: Window Line Weight @ Wall Intersection AC10

Anonymous — Sat, 15 Jul 2006 16:23:00 GMT

Hello Geoff,
I asked this question last Wednesday but you must have
missed it so I am asking again.
How does a US user obtain the INT library ?
Thank you,
Peter Devlin

Re: Window Line Weight @ Wall Intersection AC10

SeaGeoff — Sat, 15 Jul 2006 21:39:34 GMT

Sorry for the delay Peter. I have the INT library by virtue of being a beta tester. I'm not sure what the official route for a US user would be. Try the Mactel public beta here.

Re: Window Line Weight @ Wall Intersection AC10

Anonymous — Sat, 15 Jul 2006 21:54:59 GMT

Hello Geoff,
Thanks for posting back.
I will try that link.
Thank you,
Peter Devlin

Re: Window Line Weight @ Wall Intersection AC10

Anonymous — Mon, 17 Jul 2006 21:39:38 GMT

Hello Geoff,
I managed to get a copy of the AC 10 INT library.
Is there anything besides un-loading the US version
that I need to worry about when creating a new project
with the INT library loaded as the project library ?

Thanks Geoff,
Peter Devlin

Re: Window Line Weight @ Wall Intersection AC10

Anonymous — Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:21:49 GMT

Peter wrote:
Hello Geoff,
I managed to get a copy of the AC 10 INT library.
Is there anything besides un-loading the US version
that I need to worry about when creating a new project
with the INT library loaded as the project library ?

Thanks Geoff,
Peter Devlin

How about the problem with some day wanting to update projects to say AC11 that is using a much, much better US library? Will the conversion be painful. I am in agreement with Geoff that developing separate Libraries i a waste of "resources and deprives users of what should be mutual benefits". But, I am always of the opinion that if the Software company is intending for us to work in a certain manner, (in US, us the US Library) than I try to do that. No working as they intend for us to work can come back to bite you.