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Wall W/ Custom Profile Doesn't Like Windows or Doors

Anonymous — Fri, 26 May 2023 09:39:39 GMT

I have just started making some custom wall profiles.

I am not able to put windows and doors into them without being informed that there are scripting errors.

It happens with the custom wall profiles provided by Graphisoft as well.
The window is there in 3D ok. 2D shows up a bit strange. If I attempt to mess with the window I get scripting error alerts all over.

Is there something simple I am missing before I wander any deeper into this?

Re: Wall W/ Custom Profile Doesn't Like Windows

Anonymous — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:23:54 GMT

I haven't had any problems with this yet. More specifics would be helpful. Are these older parts? They may not be compatible with the complexities of the profiled walls.

Re: Wall W/ Custom Profile Doesn't Like Windows

Anonymous — Sun, 18 Jun 2006 03:22:26 GMT

I haven't played much with the settings yet...

The windows/doors are AC10 Lib parts. Just using 'em straight out of the library...

I will try opening a fresh file. The strange thing is that they are not working in the loaded AC profiles.

Re: Wall W/ Custom Profile Doesn't Like Windows

Anonymous — Sun, 18 Jun 2006 03:57:03 GMT

Have you seen any problems with regular walls and the same windows in this file?

Re: Wall W/ Custom Profile Doesn't Like Windows

Anonymous — Sun, 18 Jun 2006 04:14:29 GMT

No, no problems...

I opened a new file and drew an archicad profile wall (brick wall w/ molding).

Window works like a charm. If I use a profile wall that I have made, 2X6 stud wall with skins... no go. A black dot appears as though a library part is not loaded. It is there in 3D but in 2D it is missing, although the marker is there and an empty opening.

Mmmmm....

All the different profiles I have been making seem to have the same problem. Once the window is gone I can turn the wall into a profile that worked earlier and now no go. Can't undo back to a state where the window is good either. Stays a black dot like a missing part...

I can make the problem happen if I put a window into the AC profile PreCast Invert T. Try that and see if happens for you.

Re: Wall W/ Custom Profile Doesn't Like Windows

Anonymous — Sun, 18 Jun 2006 04:23:53 GMT

I have saved a copy of the Brick Wall w/ Molding and have played with all of it's setting (horiz, vert stretch boundrys, line types etc) and I can't make it have a negative effect on the windows...

I dunno.

I will try making a new profile from scratch a instead of capturing it from an element's profile.

Re: Wall W/ Custom Profile Doesn't Like Windows

Anonymous — Sun, 18 Jun 2006 10:15:34 GMT

Here is a screen shot.

I made a new file using AC10 Standar template. AC10 library loaded.

All fine. Using the supplied profile 'brick wall w/ molding' on left. That works fine.

One on right is a copy of the original profile the difference is that I have added another fill to the right to represent a sheathing 'skin' or what have you. Large for display purposes. As soon as I add that extra fill via the profile editor and store profile the window / door go buggy. Script error. If I switch back to the other profile the window / door work again. The only difference is the addition of a fill in the editor...
I just copied / pasted the wall fill and moved it over (changed fill type so it is visible). Does it every time.

Now I will try and replicat when I build a profile from scratch.

Re: Wall W/ Custom Profile Doesn't Like Windows

Anonymous — Sun, 18 Jun 2006 10:41:10 GMT

OK.

Made two profiles from scratch.

Profile C w/ one fill works sort of (if I try to change the window fill from the AC loaded one to empty fill- bugs out).

Profile D three fills in editor no works at all. I can change window parts, whatever, doesn't work.

Profiles A has gone buggy in the interim of it's own accord. Has not been modified at all since first screen shot.

So, I give up... This should be easy right? Anyone out there able to replicate this or am I in some twilight zone (archicad) alternate dimension?

I have sleep to sleep and work to do so good bye profile editor for now...

(I had dreams of super customizable profiles w/ custom pensets for sections with top plates, other details etc. Moldings and water tables and changes in sidings and stemwalls w/ footings and sill plates and A.B.'s and on and on and.... Oh my broken heart...)

Re: Wall W/ Custom Profile Doesn't Like Windows or Doors

Rakela Raul — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:59:59 GMT

this has nothing to do with the subject but:
when placing doors and windows in ac10, you can see a water mark of their width !!!! very niiiiice ac10
(maybe always been there but this is my first time i see it )

Re: Wall W/ Custom Profile Doesn't Like Windows or Doors

Anonymous — Tue, 20 Jun 2006 14:50:33 GMT

Trying to keep this thread alive. I can make this error happen every time.
Anybody else?

Even if I select a current composite wall and convert it to profile it immediately loses it's doors and windows... every time, all current AC10 library...

Re: Wall W/ Custom Profile Doesn't Like Windows or Doors

Anonymous — Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:41:58 GMT

(I had dreams of super customizable profiles w/ custom pensets for sections with top plates, other details etc. Moldings and water tables and changes in sidings and stemwalls w/ footings and sill plates and A.B.'s and on and on and.... Oh my broken heart...)

I too had great expectations which are being shattered by the minute. One thing I did like is that you can change the material for each "piece" by bringing up the pet palett on any edge and apply material to all edges. That is neat. However, I am having the same problems with my windows/doors. I have made a half round stacked log profile on the exerior of a 1/2" sheathing, 2x6 wall, 1.2" gypsum and my windows/doors are acting exactly how yours are. I get the blue dot of death. I have posted my problem in "other problems" thread so between the two maybe we can find a solution. I will let you know if I find the exact issue here. Good luck!

Re: Wall W/ Custom Profile Doesn't Like Windows or Doors

Anonymous — Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:52:08 GMT

Thanks for the response.

I was feeling a bit out of my mind over this. Can't seem to not have it happen with custom profile.

Re: Wall W/ Custom Profile Doesn't Like Windows or Doors

Anonymous — Wed, 21 Jun 2006 04:40:24 GMT

I played around with this a little since it was giving you such grief. I get a similar result when I use archicad windows but it worked fine with door and window builder windows which is what I normally use. This does not help you. The window I tried was the w1 wood casement. This window also gave a parameter error when the window was opened and in the window settings dialog box. If the very same window was placed in a non profile wall it placed correctly and there were no parameter errors when viewing the window in the window settings dialog box. This sounds a lot like a bug to me, but there was one other interesting thing I noticed. The window did place correctly in the "brick wall with molding and footing" which was supplied with the AC10. This made me think I had problems with my profile but I did not find a resolutions. There do appear to be some major problems with either the profile walls, the standard archicad windows, or a combination of the two. Have you sent your file to graphisoft? Here is an image showing a problematic archicad window and a door and window builder window.

Re: Wall W/ Custom Profile Doesn't Like Windows or Doors

Anonymous — Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:10:33 GMT

Just off the top of my head; I suspect a problem with the way the window is using a global variable (perhaps GLOB_CONTEXT or WALL_SKINS_PARAMS).

Re: Wall W/ Custom Profile Doesn't Like Windows or Doors

Anonymous — Thu, 22 Jun 2006 15:45:00 GMT

Have you tried putting a basic GDL made window in the wall at all? I am still having the problem but I used a primitive window in my wall and it works. Window/Door builder windows and AC9/10 windows do not work. My problem now is when I go to sect/elev/3D I lose my walls but my windows/doors are "floating" in air. I'm at a loss here as well. I'm going to try to build a window and save it as a GDL object and do a SOE on them to see if that works.

Re: Wall W/ Custom Profile Doesn't Like Windows or Doors

SeaGeoff — Thu, 22 Jun 2006 22:02:11 GMT

There seems to be a real bug here as multiple users are experiencing the same thing and there are now two topics running on this subject. I hope someone (or everyone) has contacted tech support.

Re: Wall W/ Custom Profile Doesn't Like Windows or Doors

Djordje — Sun, 25 Jun 2006 03:19:10 GMT

Possible solution:

http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=63028#63028

Re: Wall W/ Custom Profile Doesn't Like Windows or Doors

Anonymous — Tue, 08 Aug 2006 22:12:43 GMT

Replying way later...

Getting back to this. No the problem doesn't seem linked to polygon cleanliness. Even just two polygons in the profile cause problems if they are run continuous vertically as in a polygon for stud and one for sheathing. It doesn't happen when the polygons are stacked simply...

I am attaching a mod file. I hope it works. I can find no way to work around this issue. If I change the window/door setting from symbolic to projected the windows become visible again but are no longer symbolic for floor plan. They are always there in 3d (whole other array of problems there...)

I was really hoping to use this custom profile tool extensively. I am most disappointed in not being able to use it with library doors and windows. I have been using it quite enjoyably and successfully for applications not needing windows or doors.

Anyone find a working solution or is this a dead end bug?

Thanks

And I have been contacted by a tech and am assuming that this is the proper place to post this file.?

Re: Wall W/ Custom Profile Doesn't Like Windows or Doors

Anonymous — Wed, 09 Aug 2006 12:32:22 GMT

I am sorry to say I have not found a solution as of yet. I have half given up on the profiled walls for my general use. It doesn't seem to be real "log home" friendly.

Re: Wall W/ Custom Profile Doesn't Like Windows or Doors

David Pacifico — Wed, 09 Aug 2006 12:44:16 GMT

Have you tried
THIS?