topic Re: Who ate the Archicad Model Library in Libraries & objects

Who ate the Archicad Model Library

PH Architecture — Thu, 02 Jan 2025 14:27:32 GMT

The library that came with 28 is missing all of the standard US components. It appears to be just furniture. Supposedly there is a method to return to the US library but there is no information as to how to load this library. Is anyone else having this issue or is no one using 28?

Operating system used: Mac Intel-based

Re: Who ate the Archicad Model Library

Jeff Thompson — Fri, 22 Nov 2024 23:50:37 GMT

We're getting this a lot this week. Here is my answer to a previous question. Let me know if this helps. You need to load the Archicad Legacy Objects library pack. C:\Program Files\GRAPHISOFT\Archicad 28\Archicad Legacy Objects.

Re: Who ate the Archicad Model Library

Eduardo Rolon — Sat, 23 Nov 2024 02:21:05 GMT

If you use Medicine Cabinet 27 on any of your projects you will need to save it out to your own library. GS in their wisdom decided that nobody uses it and if they want to then you could spend some extra time configuring one of the cabinet objects. Obviously as long as you don't mind the knobs moving when you change sizes.

Re: Who ate the Archicad Model Library

Oosh — Sat, 23 Nov 2024 06:34:35 GMT

I just added the Archicad Legacy Objects and am still missing a number of objects including the following critical ones:

W Column
W Beam
DET_Stud
DET_CMU

Is the Archicad Legacy Objects library complete?

Re: Who ate the Archicad Model Library

David Maudlin — Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:18:34 GMT

Oosh:

See this thread: Archicad 28 Detailer Library.

David

Re: Who ate the Archicad Model Library

Oosh — Sun, 24 Nov 2024 06:55:27 GMT

Thank you, David! I was able to find DET_Stud and DET_CMU objects among the Archicad Legacy Objects.

Unfortunately, W Column and W Beam are still nowhere to be found. I exported those objects from AC27 and loaded them into the embedded library for now, but that feels like a workaround...

Re: Who ate the Archicad Model Library

Jeff Thompson — Mon, 25 Nov 2024 18:01:29 GMT

From what I can tell, Steel Shapes are not labeled and listed as the same part in Archicad 27. They've been given new names and the tool has been modified.

Archicad Legacy Objects USA.lcf/Object Library/00 General/Detailer Library/Steel Shapes... (for W Column and W Beam)

Archicad Legacy Objects USA.lcf/Object Library/00 General/Detailer Library/Wood/Wood Frame... (for DET_Stud)

Archicad Legacy Objects USA.lcf/Object Library/00 General/Detailer Library/Masonry Units/Blocks Common... (for CMU)

Hope this helps.

Re: Who ate the Archicad Model Library

Oosh — Tue, 26 Nov 2024 06:21:13 GMT

Hi Jeff,

Really appreciate you sending such a clear and thorough response.

Unfortunately, the TS Column 27 and W Beams 27 are 3D objects, not from the DET library. Not sure where they could've gone or what they've been re-named as in AC28.

Thanks again!

Re: Who ate the Archicad Model Library

Eduardo Rolon — Wed, 04 Dec 2024 21:34:46 GMT

Mine has it. Are you sure that you have loaded the latest "Archicad Library 28" I think they were not available in the one from Tech Preview?

Re: Who ate the Archicad Model Library

David Maudlin — Tue, 26 Nov 2024 13:07:32 GMT

@Oosh wrote:

I just added the Archicad Legacy Objects and am still missing a number of objects including the following critical ones:

W Column

W Beam

Unfortunately, the TS Column 27 and W Beams 27 are 3D objects, not from the DET library. Not sure where they could've gone or what they've been re-named as in AC28.

The W Column 27 is also a 3D Object. The closest equivalent I could find in the 28 Library is the Universal Beams Column (Object Library > 05 Metals > 05 50 00 Metal Fabrications > Steel Column BS), but it is using the BS Standard, not the W Shapes used in the US, so not of much use here.

David

Re: Who ate the Archicad Model Library

Oosh — Wed, 27 Nov 2024 15:29:15 GMT

Hi Eduardo,

It looks like you have the object library from AC27 loaded. In the global library .libpacks for AC28 I'm not able to find an equivalent.

Re: Who ate the Archicad Model Library

Eduardo Rolon — Mon, 02 Dec 2024 16:34:02 GMT

That is correct. The libpack one doesn't have them though the regular Monolithic one does.

Misread it.

You can extract them from the Monolithic library as I had to do with the Medicine Cabinet.

Re: Who ate the Archicad Model Library

c-luna — Thu, 03 Apr 2025 17:35:47 GMT

When you say "extract them from the Monolithic library", are you referring to a previous version's library or is there an AC28 full library somewhere?

Re: Who ate the Archicad Model Library

Eduardo Rolon — Thu, 03 Apr 2025 21:08:09 GMT

In this case Monolithic refers to the AC27 Library or the "Archicad Library 28" (which is the same as 27) since they are missing when you use "Archicad Library Packages".

Re: Who ate the Archicad Model Library

c-luna — Mon, 07 Apr 2025 16:32:59 GMT

Thanks, Eduardo. I see that library in there now.

I would like to know whether this is something that just didn't make it into the global library yet or is this a push to move us toward using columns/beams coupled with profiles to create these structural elements (since the included Standard Steel Profile Database does include US Imperial standard steel sections).

Re: Who ate the Archicad Model Library

Eduardo Rolon — Mon, 07 Apr 2025 22:22:08 GMT

They were added later after users in the Beta complained that they were missing so I don't think they will be integrated…

Re: Who ate the Archicad Model Library

BrunoH — Tue, 22 Apr 2025 16:36:27 GMT

I wonder why one still use objects (except for compatibility with older projects) rather than the standard steel profiles from ArchiCAD's built-in database. I find it more logical and flexible to use the column and beam tools with these profiles rather than objects.

Re: Who ate the Archicad Model Library

Eduardo Rolon — Thu, 17 Apr 2025 11:17:22 GMT

Because this is how they look in section and in 3d which is unacceptable.
CP on top

(stolen from @SeaGeoff )

Re: Who ate the Archicad Model Library

Eric Milberger — Thu, 17 Apr 2025 13:23:04 GMT

Shy is this not part of the setup. This should be automated. WE use and have used several competitors over the 45 years in practice. All others just update and dont require a rebuilding. Why is this made so complicated. An upgrade should be nothing but a one step operation

Re: Who ate the Archicad Model Library

Eric Milberger — Thu, 17 Apr 2025 13:36:59 GMT

This is a ARCHICAD responsibility. When the new version installs it should look at your prior install and help add those things you need. It should also either jsut install these directly or provide prompts to assist you in all the installs needed. Graphisoft needs to set this up as if they were a user that wants to work quickly after an upgrade. NOT play with settings. A New install should be painless.