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    <title>topic Libraries and Polygons in Libraries &amp; objects</title>
    <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Libraries-objects/Libraries-and-Polygons/m-p/717218#M52849</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Digging through the "prokit", stumbled across this gem. Its a ±1,000 poly wine glass. Maybe you need 6-8 for a place setting in a rendered view for a client presentation. this sounds great. maybe you are working on a restaurant project, and you need 200 of these (yeah, there are better solutions), so now you find yourself with 200,000 polygons in wine glasses.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;So I'm not posting to dig on this object, but more to open a discussion on what your thresholds are for polygon management... and maybe to ask again "why is the polycount add-on a goodie, as an afterthought, and not integral to the software?".&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;For me, I try to enforce these rules for all library parts/objects in archicad:&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;-no object placed in a single instance should be over 15-20,000 polygons. For things like feature chandeliers or focal point furniture pieces.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;-no object placed 10-20x should be over 5,000 polgyons. Looking at dining chairs, plumbing fixtures, etc.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;-no element placed 20+ times should be over 1,000 polygons&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;-not all polygons are equal. 75,000 polygons in meshes or morphs will slow a file down more than 750,000 polygons in objects (IME)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;-files running on top shelf computers (128GB RAM, best graphics cards, etc.) should never exceed 8,000,000 polygons. We have files pushing 12,000,000 with all visible, but they are SLOW&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;-the embedded library should never be over 350MB. A project server library should be created if the library can't be pared down.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;-no single image in the embedded library should be over 3MB&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;-no single object in the embedded library should be over 10MB&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;-if your duplicates/missing warnings hits triple digits, the project halts until its fixed (avoid any missing duplicates, obviously)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;so ... what are your guidelines/standards/limits/breaking points?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Screenshot 2026-10-09 at 8.59.54 PM.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/106872i21C9DC672FB4A516/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="Screenshot 2026-10-09 at 8.59.54 PM.png" alt="Screenshot 2026-10-09 at 8.59.54 PM.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier" color="grey"&gt;Operating system used: &lt;EM&gt;Mac Apple Silicon &lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2026 04:11:08 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Patrick M</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2026-10-10T04:11:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Libraries and Polygons</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Libraries-objects/Libraries-and-Polygons/m-p/717218#M52849</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Digging through the "prokit", stumbled across this gem. Its a ±1,000 poly wine glass. Maybe you need 6-8 for a place setting in a rendered view for a client presentation. this sounds great. maybe you are working on a restaurant project, and you need 200 of these (yeah, there are better solutions), so now you find yourself with 200,000 polygons in wine glasses.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;So I'm not posting to dig on this object, but more to open a discussion on what your thresholds are for polygon management... and maybe to ask again "why is the polycount add-on a goodie, as an afterthought, and not integral to the software?".&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;For me, I try to enforce these rules for all library parts/objects in archicad:&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;-no object placed in a single instance should be over 15-20,000 polygons. For things like feature chandeliers or focal point furniture pieces.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;-no object placed 10-20x should be over 5,000 polgyons. Looking at dining chairs, plumbing fixtures, etc.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;-no element placed 20+ times should be over 1,000 polygons&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;-not all polygons are equal. 75,000 polygons in meshes or morphs will slow a file down more than 750,000 polygons in objects (IME)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;-files running on top shelf computers (128GB RAM, best graphics cards, etc.) should never exceed 8,000,000 polygons. We have files pushing 12,000,000 with all visible, but they are SLOW&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;-the embedded library should never be over 350MB. A project server library should be created if the library can't be pared down.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;-no single image in the embedded library should be over 3MB&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;-no single object in the embedded library should be over 10MB&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;-if your duplicates/missing warnings hits triple digits, the project halts until its fixed (avoid any missing duplicates, obviously)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;so ... what are your guidelines/standards/limits/breaking points?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Screenshot 2026-10-09 at 8.59.54 PM.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/106872i21C9DC672FB4A516/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="Screenshot 2026-10-09 at 8.59.54 PM.png" alt="Screenshot 2026-10-09 at 8.59.54 PM.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier" color="grey"&gt;Operating system used: &lt;EM&gt;Mac Apple Silicon &lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2026 04:11:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Libraries-objects/Libraries-and-Polygons/m-p/717218#M52849</guid>
      <dc:creator>Patrick M</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-10-10T04:11:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Libraries and Polygons</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Libraries-objects/Libraries-and-Polygons/m-p/717221#M52850</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Sorry that I don’t have an OT answer, but I just wanted to add that I recently, after ~25 years of archicad use, discovered that using the embedded library is not good. I am in the process of migrating all of my custom textures and objects into lcfs. You get these benefits:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;- PLN file size reduction and the added benefits of faster file saves and opens, not to mention they get duplicated if used in hotlinks (that’s another mess best avoided)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;- easily find any object (I sometimes “fish” for that one project where I needed that something and I created it there)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;- easily update an object in all projects if you ever need to (I update old objects more often now, with the help of claude).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I never cared about polycount. I load the project with as much detail as I need. If it goes stuttery, I just hide those layers while working.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2026 08:34:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Libraries-objects/Libraries-and-Polygons/m-p/717221#M52850</guid>
      <dc:creator>Claudiu Serban</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-10-10T08:34:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Libraries and Polygons</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Libraries-objects/Libraries-and-Polygons/m-p/717222#M52851</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you for the reminder, and for your very helpful and pertinent advice.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2026 08:35:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Libraries-objects/Libraries-and-Polygons/m-p/717222#M52851</guid>
      <dc:creator>Funfun Yan</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-10-10T08:35:48Z</dc:date>
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