topic Re: Interior Door sits outside of wall jamb when placed in Libraries & objects

Interior Door sits outside of wall jamb when placed

dcerezo — Wed, 24 May 2023 08:40:29 GMT

Hey guys,

I've got this weird situation when trying to place a D24 object in my interior walls. When I place the door and it swings towards the side I picked as "exterior" it works fine. But if I flip the swing, away from the "exterior" side, it sits away from the jamb. I can't for the life of me figure out why.

Can someone help me identify the setting for this?

Re: Interior Door sits outside of wall jamb when placed

Anonymous — Fri, 02 Oct 2020 09:01:33 GMT

Is it a Complex Profile Wall?
Is your door frame thickness = wall thickness?
Where is your Wall reference line?

Re: Interior Door sits outside of wall jamb when placed

Minh Nguyen — Mon, 05 Oct 2020 13:59:47 GMT

Hello,

Thank you very much for sharing and I am very sorry about the issue!

Depend on the types of wall, there could be different reasons that might cause this. To help with the investigation, is it possible to share with us a sample PLA file that contains the same wall and door in the screenshot?

Looking forward to hearing from you!

Best regards,
Minh

Re: Interior Door sits outside of wall jamb when placed

dcerezo — Sun, 11 Oct 2020 23:44:57 GMT

Braza wrote:
Is it a Complex Profile Wall? No, just pretty basic composite wall types.
Is your door frame thickness = wall thickness? Where is that setting? I don't see that.
Where is your Wall reference line? Center

Re: Interior Door sits outside of wall jamb when placed

dcerezo — Mon, 12 Oct 2020 00:14:30 GMT

Hello Minh,

Please see attached. Doors 2 & 3 and Doors 4 & 5 are identical as far as I can see. The only difference is the swing towards the exterior or interior side. If it swings towards the exterior side, it works fine...if it swings towards the interior side, it jumps away from the wall.

Here's a link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/zketi5lsb3x7ra8/Door%20Swing%20Issue.pln?dl=0

Hopefully you can figure it out.

Thanks!

Re: Interior Door sits outside of wall jamb when placed

Anonymous — Mon, 12 Oct 2020 09:10:58 GMT

dcerezo wrote:
Is your door frame thickness = wall thickness? Where is that setting? I don't see that.

Here:

Re: Interior Door sits outside of wall jamb when placed

Minh Nguyen — Mon, 12 Oct 2020 11:08:25 GMT

Hi,

Thanks for the file! After some tests, I believe that this particular door is corrupted somehow. I compared its settings with the neighboring one and found nothing special. If I use Parameter Transfer to pickup parameters from the "good" door and inject them to the "bad" door, it should jump to the wall's face.

Please let me know if it helps!
Thank you very much!

Best regards,
Minh

Re: Interior Door sits outside of wall jamb when placed

dcerezo — Wed, 14 Oct 2020 00:23:57 GMT

Braza wrote:

dcerezo wrote:
Is your door frame thickness = wall thickness? Where is that setting? I don't see that.
Here:

Screen01.jpg

I don't have that option...that's weird.

Re: Interior Door sits outside of wall jamb when placed

dcerezo — Wed, 14 Oct 2020 00:24:58 GMT

mnguyen wrote:
Hi,

Thanks for the file! After some tests, I believe that this particular door is corrupted somehow. I compared its settings with the neighboring one and found nothing special. If I use Parameter Transfer to pickup parameters from the "good" door and inject them to the "bad" door, it should jump to the wall's face.

Please let me know if it helps!
Thank you very much!

Best regards,
Minh

Thank you Minh, I'll do that, not sure how the door got corrupted, but that does work.

Re: Interior Door sits outside of wall jamb when placed

Barry Kelly — Wed, 14 Oct 2020 01:33:05 GMT

dcerezo wrote:
I don't have that option...that's weird.

That could be a USA versus INT library version.
In the AUS library (I believe is similar to the INT library) that door even has a different name (Door 24 versus D1 24).

Barry.

Re: Interior Door sits outside of wall jamb when placed

qbic-ft — Sat, 17 Oct 2020 06:04:11 GMT

It's happening to me as well and only when you use Wall Closure = Stud Wall

Re: Interior Door sits outside of wall jamb when placed

jkershaw — Thu, 22 Oct 2020 18:47:01 GMT

bumping this topic. We are having the same issue since upgrading to AC24. As another post stated, the issue is when setting the Wall Closure to Stud Wall.

Parameter transfer does not work.

Flipping the door using the flip button results in the wall being "thrown" outside the bounds of the wall. Seems like a GDL glitch in AC24.... GS please resolve!

Re: Interior Door sits outside of wall jamb when placed

Varch — Sat, 24 Oct 2020 17:35:33 GMT

I'm a brand new user and having this trouble on my first project. When I flip it, the jamb is in the correct spot. When I flip it back it jumps outside the wall again. I was wondering if it was just me trying to learn Archicad - but I found this post that sounds like what I am experiencing.

Pretty frustrating - I've dug through all of the attributes and am struggling with this.

Re: Interior Door sits outside of wall jamb when placed

Varch — Sat, 24 Oct 2020 21:12:20 GMT

I used a new template (Shoegnome) this time and it is doing it there, as well. Maybe I just have one of my settings wrong?

FWIW I loaded a trial copy of the CI tools last week. Wondering if that could be part of the problem.

Dropbox link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6q1bqs540fcj69i/2020-10-24%20Menefee%20Residence.pln?dl=0

Re: Interior Door sits outside of wall jamb when placed

Minh Nguyen — Mon, 26 Oct 2020 13:05:09 GMT

Hi Craig,

Thank you very much for the report, and I am very sorry about the issue!

I was able to reproduce this issue on Archicad 24 USA only, without CI tools installed. I'm not sure if this is an issue with AC24, or with USA library objects. I will ask our colleagues from Technical Support team to have a closer look into this issue. As soon as we have a conclusion, I will let you know!

Best regards,
Minh

Re: Interior Door sits outside of wall jamb when placed

Varch — Wed, 28 Oct 2020 22:57:06 GMT

Thanks. I would love to resolve this.

Re: Interior Door sits outside of wall jamb when placed

Minh Nguyen — Fri, 30 Oct 2020 15:19:16 GMT

Dear Craig,

We investigated the US library and found out that there was a bug with the frame in certain door objects. The defect has been entered into our defect system. As of now, the workaround can be placing the door on the other side instead of flipping it.

As I can see that this is a very serious defect, and it can only be fixed via a library update (which is different from Archicad updates), we will try to escalate this issue, hopefully the fix will come soon!

Thank you very much for your understanding! If you have any further questions, feel free to ask me again!

Best regards,
Minh

Re: Interior Door sits outside of wall jamb when placed

Varch — Wed, 11 Nov 2020 17:12:17 GMT

How long does it usually take to fix something like this?

Re: Interior Door sits outside of wall jamb when placed

jkershaw — Thu, 12 Nov 2020 18:16:41 GMT

How long does it usually take to fix something like this?

Would like to know this answer as well. We are holding off migrating projects until this issue is resolved.

Re: Interior Door sits outside of wall jamb when placed

Anonymous — Sun, 15 Nov 2020 23:46:33 GMT

I just encountered this exact problem and searched for a fix for quite a while. Finally found this post, and I'm hoping that it will be resolved soon!