topic Re: TUBE problems in Libraries & objects

TUBE problems

Bruce — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 04:59:09 GMT

I'm developing a bent spring object, using the TUBE command. I've got the maths working, but unfortunately, the TUBE command puts small creases in the profile as it starts to go over the bend. You will also see some large twists near the apex.

I've have tried playing with the angle parameter, but it has little effect.

I've conferred with some colleagues, who are confident this is either a bug, or beyond the capacity of TUBE to deal with.

Any ideas?

Re: TUBE problems

Bruce — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 05:02:29 GMT

The gsm file

Re: TUBE problems

Alex Moruzzi — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 07:55:41 GMT

If you've tried setting the tube mask to 0 and other values ... then I have no clue

Re: TUBE problems

DGSketcher — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 11:03:02 GMT

I'm not an advanced GDL coder, but if this is one continuous tube around a centre of rotation then perhaps you might get around the graphic problems by creating the end spirals and then infill with a single 360 degree spiral?

This might also help if you haven't already got it...

http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~lazwww/cookbook/gdl_cookbook/index.html

I still refer to it on a regular basis.

Just checked DNC's book and he does make reference to problems with rendering TUBE and seems to favour using bPrism for this type of object.

Re: TUBE problems

Pertti Paasky — Wed, 13 Jan 2016 18:56:19 GMT

Hi, you could examine the geometrics by switching the wireframe on. The tube section's orientation needs to be calculated and in some cases knots can appear. By splitting the tube into suitable pieces this problem can be avoided.

Re: TUBE problems

Bruce — Thu, 14 Jan 2016 00:38:54 GMT

Thanks all. I've had a look at these various options, but to no avail. Splitting into smaller segments seems to be the only way...which still creases a bit.

Does anyone from Graphisoft have any input?

Re: TUBE problems

David Maudlin — Thu, 14 Jan 2016 14:46:42 GMT

Bruce wrote:
Does anyone from Graphisoft have any input?

You might try here: GRAPHISOFT GDL Center > Forums, and if you get a reply, please link back to this thread.

David

Re: TUBE problems

Erwin Edel — Thu, 14 Jan 2016 15:30:13 GMT

It seems that the circle segments that are connected to form the tube twist around the axis, causing the creases.

Maybe try coding one with a square or triangle polygon to fix the rotation around the axis that happens, than switch back to the circulare polygon.

If you set RESOL to 3 you can see it happening more clearly. The twisting that is.

Re: TUBE problems

Nader Belal — Fri, 23 Feb 2018 06:05:14 GMT

Hi every one,

Have anyone of you found a way to stop the profile's rotation ?

Or have abyone found the way to calculate that rotation ?

Re: TUBE problems

Bruce — Fri, 23 Feb 2018 18:24:44 GMT

Not to my knowledge - this is an inherent problem with the TUBE command.

It's almost irrelevant, but I tried the same coding (well, logic) using Ruby inside SketchUP, and the FollowMe command, and no twisting. So it's definitely unique to the TUBE GDL.

Re: TUBE problems

Bruce — Mon, 26 Feb 2018 21:36:57 GMT

This has been answered in the GDL Centre forum: http://gdl.graphisoft.com/forums/topic/tube-twisting

Apparently they have introduced a macro to deal with this issue.