topic ArchiCAD 19 interior lamp object fill in Libraries & objects

ArchiCAD 19 interior lamp object fill

Anonymous — Fri, 14 Aug 2015 09:57:46 GMT

In AC19 INT library some (not all) lamps have greyed options for selecting fill type, pen and background pen in floorplan. Is there any checkbox that I am missing or what? I have checked in AC18 and it works without any problems.

Re: ArchiCAD 19 interior lamp object fill

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 14 Aug 2015 17:54:52 GMT

I checked the script of the Lamp object and this type of lamps does is not scripted in a way to display Fills in 2D so those Fill fields are always disabled.
Maybe it is because it is a ceiling lamp so you always have an overhead display mode.
By the way, this interface with these fields and options is a common interface for all Light types. Some use these Fill options, some don't.
But I think the interface in this case is deceiving because why is there a field there at all if you can never enable it? Just to tease you or irritate you?
I will forward this to GS for consideration and possible fixing.

Re: ArchiCAD 19 interior lamp object fill

Anonymous — Sat, 15 Aug 2015 08:48:57 GMT

Thank you for checking. I really don't know, why you shouldn't be able to change this fills, but leave them dark grey all over the world. The funny thing is if you open AC18 place the same lamp object with changed fill and the copy paste to AC19 it is converted to AC19 library part and retains the fill set in AC18. So I thing it is mistake in the code for some light objetcs.

Re: ArchiCAD 19 interior lamp object fill

Laszlo Nagy — Sat, 15 Aug 2015 10:32:04 GMT

Yes, you are right.
It works just fine in AC18.
Then I think this is definitely a bug in the AC19 version. The Lamp object was modified for AC19 and they must have introduced the bug then.
I have reported this issue to Graphisoft.

Re: ArchiCAD 19 interior lamp object fill

Katalin Borszeki — Fri, 28 Aug 2015 08:56:58 GMT

Hi,
Thanks for letting us know about it.
This issue has been added to our database as #193411 and has already been fixed. The fix is planned to be part of the next ARCHICAD 19 update!

Re: ArchiCAD 19 interior lamp object fill

Anonymous — Tue, 05 Jan 2016 17:22:54 GMT

Has this been fixed yet? I am on 4013 AC19.....

KatalinBorszeki wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for letting us know about it.
This issue has been added to our database as #193411 and has already been fixed. The fix is planned to be part of the next ARCHICAD 19 update!

Re: ArchiCAD 19 interior lamp object fill

Anonymous — Thu, 28 Jan 2016 22:55:05 GMT

AC19 Library Update 4554, fixed it. Thank you for releasing the fixed objects.

Re: ArchiCAD 19 interior lamp object fill

Anonymous — Sun, 06 Mar 2016 09:23:33 GMT

Doesn't appear to be fixed on my build...

Version Lang Build Platform Type
19 NZE 5005 Mactel64 FULL

Re: ArchiCAD 19 interior lamp object fill

David Maudlin — Sun, 06 Mar 2016 13:15:11 GMT

Adam:

It is not part of the build, it is in the library. Go to Help > Check for Updates... and see if your library is current.

David

Re: ArchiCAD 19 interior lamp object fill

Anonymous — Sun, 06 Mar 2016 20:00:43 GMT

Thanks David, library is up to date... we think it might be a NZ issue. Will contact the local distributor...

Re: ArchiCAD 19 interior lamp object fill

David Maudlin — Mon, 07 Mar 2016 13:01:20 GMT

Adam:

Makes sense. I don't know if it helps but I show the library build number as 4554.8 (USA library).

David

Re: ArchiCAD 19 interior lamp object fill

Erwin Edel — Mon, 07 Mar 2016 13:33:47 GMT

The updates of the dutch subscription library don't show up in ArchiCAD update and need to be downloaded from the reseller website, this might be the case in NZ as well, perhaps.

Re: ArchiCAD 19 interior lamp object fill

David Maudlin — Tue, 08 Mar 2016 13:44:49 GMT

I received some information from Graphisoft about this issue:

Hi David,

I'm Tamás from the Hungarian GRAPHISOFT Technical Support Team. Thank you for your comment about the Lamp Object. We added your case to our Database with the ID #55761.

Unfortunately we are not planning to release a library update for ARCHICAD 19 in New Zealand, this why you still have the issue with the lamps. Officially this is planned to be part of ARCHICAD 20.

As a workaround, you can modify the GDL parameters of the lamps. I tell you how to do it step-by step.

- Create a lamp (the problematics are: Ceiling Lamp, - Ceiling Ventilator, - Chandelier, - Fluorescent Lamp, - Fluorescent Wall Lamp, - Halogen Recessed, - Pendant Lamp, - Recessed Spot, - Spotlamp Ceiling, - Spotlamp Ground, - Spotlamp Wall, - Spotlight Kit, - Wall Lamp, - Wall Spotlight)
- Select it and open the GDL Editor (Ctrl + Shift + o)
- In the Parameter script, search (Ctrl + f) "lightMacro_m"
- Select only lightMacro_m (so you don't need the " marks), then press Ctrl + Shift + o again.
- In the new GDL Editor, go to Parameter menu and at the very end of it, there will be a parameter called "bEnableFillOnRealisticSymbol = 0,"
- You need to change this 0 to 1.
- Close the tab, Save and overwrite the lightMacro_m, close the GDL Settings of the lamp, Save and overwrite it too.
- Put a new lamp and that will work properly.

It seems a bit complicated, but it is easy and fast. I fixed the Fluorescent Lamp Object, and on the following link you can download a PLA that contains it
https://graphisoft.sharefile.com/d-s15d3d51692c4ed29

If you have further questions don't hesitate to write us.

Best regards,
Tamás Gáspár

In addition to Tamás' description, since the macro is in the .lcf library file, the library will need to be Extracted and then put back into a new Container to create a new .lcf file. For those who have done some GDL scripting the fix is simple, but can seem a bit intimidating for novices.

David

Re: ArchiCAD 19 interior lamp object fill

Paul King — Tue, 20 Sep 2016 10:35:12 GMT

Adam wrote:
Thanks David, library is up to date... we think it might be a NZ issue. Will contact the local distributor...

Confirmation from another Kiwi that as of September 2016 this is still an outstanding bug under version 6006, latest NZL libraries (no further updates exist)