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Need to reinstall Archicad 13 (student) object library

Anonymous — Thu, 25 May 2023 16:08:47 GMT

Hi,
I recently upgraded to Archicad 14 Student edition (my 1 year license for 13 has expired). In the process I unwittingly deleted the object library for Archicad 13. I didn't realize my projects still were going to rely on it. Is there any way to reinstall the Archicad 13 object library?
Thank you,
Spartan

Re: Need to reinstall Archicad 13 (student) object library

dhaval7shah — Fri, 22 Apr 2011 18:26:53 GMT

You can open your 13 files in AC14 and keep working.
You need to Load 'ArchiCAD 13 migration library' from the installed ArchiCAD 14's folder.
(however you can download ArchiCAD 13 library from the net)

Re: Need to reinstall Archicad 13 (student) object library

Anonymous — Mon, 25 Apr 2011 12:55:51 GMT

dhaval7shah,
I looked on Graphisoft's site for the Archicad 13 library, but the closest thing I could find was on this page: http://www.graphisoft.com/support/developer/downloads/. The Basic library available on it only contains a few samples.
Do you know where it can be downloaded from?
Once I get it, do I use the library manager in AC to import it?
Thank you again,
Spartan

Re: Need to reinstall Archicad 13 (student) object library

Eduardo Rolon — Mon, 25 Apr 2011 14:12:57 GMT

As Dhaval said you need to add the AC13 Migration Library to your project, it is located in the same place as the AC14 one.

It is not necessary to download the full AC13 library.

Re: Need to reinstall Archicad 13 (student) object library

Anonymous — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 00:56:19 GMT

ejrolon,
OK, I went to the library manager and added the Archicad 13 migration library. It seems to only have about 14 objects in its subfolders. I went to object, linked libraries, Archicad 13 migration library. The following subfolders were available:
00 General
11 Equipment 13
12 Furnishings 13
14 Conveying systems 13
22 Plumbing 13
32 Exterior Improvements 13
If I recall correctly, these objects weren't in the original Archicad 13 library.
-Spartan

Re: Need to reinstall Archicad 13 (student) object library

Eduardo Rolon — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 01:01:18 GMT

In your library you should have loaded the AC13 MIgration Library and AC14 Regular library.

The migration library is for those objects that cannot be updated to the new version. Because of this the Migration library does not contain all of the objects.

Re: Need to reinstall Archicad 13 (student) object library

Anonymous — Thu, 28 Apr 2011 00:31:59 GMT

I think we are honing in on the problem here. It looks like the AC 14 library wasn't loaded at all. I'll try re-installing AC 14.

Re: Need to reinstall Archicad 13 (student) object library

Anonymous — Thu, 28 Apr 2011 01:25:28 GMT

Ah hah! I got it. All I needed to do was add the AC 14 library to my project that was created with AC 13. The fact that it kept saying that the Archicad 13 library was unavailable, even after adding the AC 13 migration library was a red herring. Thank you all for your ideas, they lead me in the right direction.
-Spartan Giordano

Re: Need to reinstall Archicad 13 (student) object library

Thomas Holm — Thu, 28 Apr 2011 05:39:22 GMT

Spartan, thanks for pointing to the ongoing problem of library management when migration between AC versions.

I think, by default, when you for the first time open a project saved in an earlier app version (say AC13) in a later version (say AC14), the later version should by default replace the old version's standard libraries with the new version's plus the old version's migration library.

Warning dialogs, opt-out options apply, of course, but that should be the default. The procedure is far too opaque today.

Re: Need to reinstall Archicad 13 (student) object library

Anonymous — Thu, 28 Apr 2011 20:30:19 GMT

Thomas,
Thank you for your post. I don't feel quite so stupid now.
-Spartan

Re: Need to reinstall Archicad 13 (student) object library

Thomas Holm — Thu, 28 Apr 2011 21:45:01 GMT

Spartan wrote:
Thomas,
Thank you for your post. I don't feel quite so stupid now.
-Spartan

Not at all. It's the program's behavior that's stupid and unintuitive!
This issue should have been taken care of long ago.
(as should the issue that when you've opened a project in the new program version, you are not prompted to do a 'Save As' under a new file name.
Today, by default your old version is overwritten by the new, which means the project can no longer be opened in the old program version.

This is a potential problem since new versions can introduce or uncover errors, caused by new program behaviors, new libraries, or even bugs. To 'Save back' doesn't always solve them because new library parts may be uncompatible. And if you didn't realise this and take care of the temporary backup file, you have a problem.

You may of course want to overwrite the old version, but that should be a conscious decision.)

Library and version management have some way to go before I'd call them streamlined and intuitive!