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Help: Sketchup into Archicad

Anonymous — Thu, 25 May 2023 16:20:08 GMT

Hello,

I have downloaded the "sketchup Add on" to import Sketchup files into archicad10.I work with a studentversion.When i open the sketchup file, it says you can import the file in Archicad.So far,so good, but when i want to import i get a bug reporter.
Can somebody help me?

Greetz Musti

Re: Help: Sketchup into Archicad

Djordje — Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:03:06 GMT

musti135 wrote:
Hello,

I have downloaded the "sketchup Add on" to import Sketchup files into archicad10.I work with a studentversion.When i open the sketchup file, it says you can import the file in Archicad.So far,so good, but when i want to import i get a bug reporter.
Can somebody help me?

Greetz Musti

First, say what is the Archicad, operating system, and the computer you work with.

The Bug reporter should be filled (use the Edit button) and sent, not closed. It sends the data about your crash to the Graphisoft Tech Support.

And, your location - meaning at least the country that you are in - is also important because your problems might be referred to or followed up with your country's technical support

No need for secrecy ... people can help only if they know that you have a problem and where to find you.

This is the second or third report that opening a SketchUp model crashes Archicad, but the circumstances are usually not described, so how can anyone help you ?!?!?!

Re: Help: Sketchup into Archicad

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Mar 2007 19:04:09 GMT

i think i described it well and good...if you dont have the answer,than it isnt my fould.if there isnt a answer for the problem,i am not mad or anythings else.just say you dont have a answer.thats all......

Re: Help: Sketchup into Archicad

stefan — Wed, 28 Mar 2007 07:53:35 GMT

musti135 wrote:
i think i described it well and good...if you dont have the answer,than it isnt my fould.if there isnt a answer for the problem,i am not mad or anythings else.just say you dont have a answer.thats all......

FWIW, his answer was a hint to display more info to be able to help you. The SketchUp add-in does work and the student version of ArchiCAD is compatible with the regular version, thus so far there is no indication as to what is going wrong.

Does it work with a very simple SketchUp model?
Which version of SketchUp are you using?
Which version of ArchiCAD?
Which operating system?

Re: Help: Sketchup into Archicad

Srinivas — Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:34:33 GMT

musti135 wrote:
i think i described it well and good...if you dont have the answer,than it isnt my fould.if there isnt a answer for the problem,i am not mad or anythings else.just say you dont have a answer.thats all......

NEVER ASSUME THAT THE OTHER PERSON KNOWS WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.

Provide us with the required info and you will get lot of help from this forum.

Re: Help: Sketchup into Archicad

Anonymous — Thu, 29 Mar 2007 09:39:46 GMT

okey, thanks

Re: Help: Sketchup into Archicad

Anonymous — Mon, 02 Apr 2007 20:46:29 GMT

I have had a similar problem with SketchUp 6 and ArchiCAD 10. It appears the importer was designed for SketchUp 5 and has not been updated for either SketchUp 6 or Google SketchUp. Anytime I try to import a SU file it crashes AC and I get the bug reporter.

Also, I understand that professional firms should not use Google SketchUp for most students, that is a common denominator these days and no matter how much ArchiCAD Graphisoft gives away to students, if the SketchUp translator doesn't work, AC is dead in the water.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Brian

Re: Help: Sketchup into Archicad

stefan — Tue, 10 Apr 2007 09:20:17 GMT

Brian wrote:
I have had a similar problem with SketchUp 6 and ArchiCAD 10. It appears the importer was designed for SketchUp 5 and has not been updated for either SketchUp 6 or Google SketchUp. Anytime I try to import a SU file it crashes AC and I get the bug reporter.

Export the SketchUp 6 file to the SketchUp 5 format.

Brian wrote:
Also, I understand that professional firms should not use Google SketchUp for most students, that is a common denominator these days and no matter how much ArchiCAD Graphisoft gives away to students, if the SketchUp translator doesn't work, AC is dead in the water.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Brian

Frankly, ArchiCAD does not need SketchUp. While the modeling abilities in SketchUp are nice, they don't apply well in the BIM model from ArchiCAD. It would recreate the building with native ArchiCAD elements rather than by importing them from a SketchUp model.

ArchiCAD can survive nicely without SketchUp, but the two play together well.

And SketchUp is indeed very popular with students, but don't assume that professional users should not use it as well.

Re: Help: Sketchup into Archicad

Anonymous — Tue, 10 Apr 2007 14:42:18 GMT

stefan wrote:
ArchiCAD can survive nicely without SketchUp, but the two play together well.

Not for me. So far I have been unable to get the SketchUp add-on to work (crashes ArchiCAD). I tried saving to older (and newer) formats but still no joy. I ended up having to export to 3DS to get some SU models into AC yesterday. The 3DS was also a bit flaky, but I haven't had time to check if it was on the outbound or inbound leg.

There are very compelling reasons for ArchiCAD to work with SketchUp. In the world of day to day practice it is necessary to get results in whatever way is most effective. Sometimes this means slamming together some SketchUp models in an ArchiCAD master plan.

It would also be nice to get ArchiCAD models out reliably to Google Earth which I have so far been unable to do as well.

Is it possible that the add-ons have some problem with the MacBook Pro running XP? It shouldn't, but I keep hearing of other people getting these things to work and so far I have had no success. (...and still not available for OSX )

Re: Help: Sketchup into Archicad

Djordje — Tue, 10 Apr 2007 16:26:58 GMT

Matthew wrote:
Not for me. So far I have been unable to get the SketchUp add-on to work (crashes ArchiCAD).
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It would also be nice to get ArchiCAD models out reliably to Google Earth which I have so far been unable to do as well.

On Windows both things work relatively well; might this only be MacTel problem?

Re: Help: Sketchup into Archicad

Karl Ottenstein — Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:59:42 GMT

stefan wrote:
Frankly, ArchiCAD does not need SketchUp. While the modeling abilities in SketchUp are nice, they don't apply well in the BIM model from ArchiCAD. I would recreate the building with native ArchiCAD elements rather than by importing them from a SketchUp model.

I agree with Stefan as far as importing buildings. Model them over in AC to get a proper model.

But, SketchUp is really useful for creating entourage visually (e.g., furniture, model embelishments, etc) - in which case save as 3DS (from SketchUp Pro) and use ArchiCAD's 3DS-In plugin (downloadable from Goodies) to bring the model in as a GDL object.

Also, the SketchUp-Google Earth connection is incredibly useful for anyone trying to place their model in a site context involving mountains in order to get proper sun shadows / sun studies.

I've lived in ski communities for the last 20 years. In each case, if we omit the mountains, then there is no way to get proper shadows. (Missing the trees matters too, of course.) Modeling the site terrain for the building site isn't enough.

The Google Earth - SketchUp connection lets you grab Google Earth 3D terrain, with image mapped onto it automatically...pan Google Earth, capture again, repeat...until you have as much surrounding terrain as you need. Low polygon count, but elevations are good enough to create reasonably accurate shadows on your building and site ... and decent approximations of views from windows, etc.

But buildings? Nope - model them in AC as Stefan says (unless they are simply the context of your model - that is neighboring building masses).

Cheers,
Karl

Re: Help: Sketchup into Archicad

Anonymous — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 23:20:49 GMT

I have had this happen many times with Win XP Pro, SU6 Pro (the non free version), and AC10. Finally just gave up.

In the past I had tried with SU5 as well and had some lock with exploding all components.

Having this connection work is a pretty critical methodology, particularly in school going from massing studies to schematic very quickly. Makes for a quick translation if it works. I learned SU long before AC and find myself pretty comfortable there even for complex building models. Unfortunately, SU also makes for miserable translation into AutoCAD sections, plans elevations, with far too many line breaks. Was hoping that AC10 would be easy. It's not for me so far either

Re: Help: Sketchup into Archicad

Anonymous — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 23:22:51 GMT

I had some luck with SU5 with exploding all components and then bringing into AC10. Never have had it work with SU6, gave up a long time ago. Win XP Pro, SU5/6 Pro, AC10 Student

Re: Help: Sketchup into Archicad

Anonymous — Fri, 25 May 2007 14:10:07 GMT

Hi

We've had a problem with customers importing Sketchup files and crashing Archicad V10 under Windows and noted the following:

1) Shortening a file name to 8 characters and removing spaces made the filename visible in the open file dialog.

2) When opening the .skp file with File:Open command , setting file type to Sketchup - we were able to replicate crashing.

3) When opening the .skp file using the "Start Archicad" dialog that appears when you launch a new session of Archicad the .skp file imported fine !

Open Archicad from scratch
From the start Archicad dialog click "open a project"
click "browse for a project"
click "browse"
change "files of type" to sketchup
open the file

This technique won't necessarily work all the time, but I hope this helps !

Andrew Ecker
CADConsult Limited
Christchurch, New Zealand
Archicad Reseller for South Island, New Zealand.