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    <title>topic Re: How to work with Gross volumes for zones? in Sustainable design</title>
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    <description>I allways model my gross volumes with mesh tool, I can make schedules by element ID that shows the volumes.&lt;BR /&gt;
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It's a quick way to model the shape, just use solid element operations to add shades to the 'main' mesh.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Zone surface scheduling in the past hasn't been too accurate, so when it comes to getting surface areas of buildings, I prefer old fashioned 2d fills that I've figured out myself.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Generally I only do this type of energy calculations once per project, so it is not too big a loss of time.</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2014 07:38:22 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Erwin Edel</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2014-03-05T07:38:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>How to work with Gross volumes for zones?</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Sustainable-design/How-to-work-with-Gross-volumes-for-zones/m-p/168471#M1027</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV class="actalk-migrated-content"&gt;&lt;R&gt;Our regional energy regulations demand the calculation of the "protected volume" of the building to be defined using Gross dimensions.&lt;BR /&gt;
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The explanation is in Dutch, but the picture is clear.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;A href="http://www.energiesparen.be/epb/prof/oppervlaktevolume" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.energiesparen.be/epb/prof/oppervlaktevolume&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
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So far, I tried to do this using Zones that are modelled around the building, but not connected to the walls or roofs.&lt;BR /&gt;
To cap the top, I need to use a separate copy of the roof that is displaced vertically, as otherwise the roof volume is disregarded.&lt;BR /&gt;
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And in schedules, I noticed that you can only get "net volumes" out of Zones. So I can not create gross zones using the reference line methods. Only creating them manually.&lt;BR /&gt;
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I did experiment with Morph objects that are a bit more flexible, but could not properly schedule surface materials in the past.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Want to attach separate textures to faces and schedule their areas.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Cannot find improvements in 17 either... not in Schedules, not in Lists.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Damn... So easy to do in SketchUp, so hard in ArchiCAD.&lt;/R&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper" image-alt="beschermdvolume.JPG" style="width: 509px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/19625i24946556B275B280/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="beschermdvolume.JPG" alt="beschermdvolume.JPG" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2023 08:53:13 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>stefan</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-05-11T08:53:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How to work with Gross volumes for zones?</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Sustainable-design/How-to-work-with-Gross-volumes-for-zones/m-p/168472#M1028</link>
      <description>Stefan,&lt;BR /&gt;
Did you make any progress on this issue (since last post) ?</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2014 05:03:42 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-03-05T05:03:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How to work with Gross volumes for zones?</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Sustainable-design/How-to-work-with-Gross-volumes-for-zones/m-p/168473#M1029</link>
      <description>I allways model my gross volumes with mesh tool, I can make schedules by element ID that shows the volumes.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
It's a quick way to model the shape, just use solid element operations to add shades to the 'main' mesh.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Zone surface scheduling in the past hasn't been too accurate, so when it comes to getting surface areas of buildings, I prefer old fashioned 2d fills that I've figured out myself.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Generally I only do this type of energy calculations once per project, so it is not too big a loss of time.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2014 07:38:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Sustainable-design/How-to-work-with-Gross-volumes-for-zones/m-p/168473#M1029</guid>
      <dc:creator>Erwin Edel</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-03-05T07:38:22Z</dc:date>
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