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    <title>topic EcoDesigner Star - $$$$ in Sustainable design</title>
    <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Sustainable-design/EcoDesigner-Star/m-p/114370#M902</link>
    <description>&lt;DIV class="actalk-migrated-content"&gt;&lt;T&gt;With the announcement of the Beta Trial releases of ECODesigner Star today I am reposting the following post as a new topic so that it will have a chance to be read by the powers to be at Graphisoft and follow peers to voice their 2 cents with either approval or disapproval with mine.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Quote: (taken from the topic -Archicad 16 and PHPP?)&lt;BR /&gt;
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- €/$: how much is it going to cost?  (EcoDesigner Star)&lt;BR /&gt;
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No final decision regarding the price, yet. &lt;BR /&gt;
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After watching the webinar on Eco Designer Star (ED*) this week that once again I am going to have to reach deep into my pockets and shell out more $$$. &lt;BR /&gt;
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I for one felt cheated/disappointed when Graphisoft (GS) incorporated ED into ArchiCAD 16 as I had paid the extra $$$ for this add-on that now everybody gets for free. I get annoyed when this happens its kind of like you need two things so you buying two things but a period of time later its a case of buy one thing and get one free. &lt;BR /&gt;
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Therefore for what its worth; those of us that purchased the original Eco Designer Add-on should received Eco Designer Star free or at least heavily discounted price for compensation for the initial $$$ (lets face it... these add-ons aren't cheap and why should GS have two bites of the cherry from us).&lt;/T&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2023 08:22:40 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2023-05-11T08:22:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>EcoDesigner Star - $$$$</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Sustainable-design/EcoDesigner-Star/m-p/114370#M902</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV class="actalk-migrated-content"&gt;&lt;T&gt;With the announcement of the Beta Trial releases of ECODesigner Star today I am reposting the following post as a new topic so that it will have a chance to be read by the powers to be at Graphisoft and follow peers to voice their 2 cents with either approval or disapproval with mine.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Quote: (taken from the topic -Archicad 16 and PHPP?)&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
- €/$: how much is it going to cost?  (EcoDesigner Star)&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
No final decision regarding the price, yet. &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
After watching the webinar on Eco Designer Star (ED*) this week that once again I am going to have to reach deep into my pockets and shell out more $$$. &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
I for one felt cheated/disappointed when Graphisoft (GS) incorporated ED into ArchiCAD 16 as I had paid the extra $$$ for this add-on that now everybody gets for free. I get annoyed when this happens its kind of like you need two things so you buying two things but a period of time later its a case of buy one thing and get one free. &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Therefore for what its worth; those of us that purchased the original Eco Designer Add-on should received Eco Designer Star free or at least heavily discounted price for compensation for the initial $$$ (lets face it... these add-ons aren't cheap and why should GS have two bites of the cherry from us).&lt;/T&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2023 08:22:40 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-05-11T08:22:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: EcoDesigner Star - $$$$</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Sustainable-design/EcoDesigner-Star/m-p/114371#M903</link>
      <description>Hi Brendon,&lt;BR /&gt;
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Allow me to apologize on behalf of GS for not being clear regarding EcoDesigner* pricing for people who purchased the first generation EcoDesigner add-on. There are two points that I'd like to make regarding the topic:&lt;BR /&gt;
-) the EcoDesigner add on was a tool for energy evaluation and design optimization, for the early design phase. Let's say it took GS X amount of effort to produce it. EcoDesigner* is a high end energy analysis tool capable of compliance documentation. It took us 7X amount of effort to produce it. In other words: one is a walkman, the other is a high end hi-fi device. The two can never cost the same, therefore your claim of GS charging twice for the "same thing" does not do us justice.&lt;BR /&gt;
-) EcoDesigner* will be offered to users who purchased the first generation EcoDesigner add-on at a discount price&lt;BR /&gt;
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Thanks for being a "core" EcoDesigner user! The satisfaction of early adopters  is key for us, therefore I hope that you'll find the EcoDesigner* product useful for your work. Try the EcoDesigner* Public Beta free of charge to test the new functionality! Also, please take a look at other ASHRAE certified building energy simulation software solutions to see how much they cost - I can assure you that the price of EcoDesigner* will be lower.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Best Regards,&lt;BR /&gt;
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Miklos Sved&lt;BR /&gt;
Product Manager&lt;BR /&gt;
GS Sustainable Solutions</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 10:24:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Sustainable-design/EcoDesigner-Star/m-p/114371#M903</guid>
      <dc:creator>Miklos Sved</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-02-07T10:24:14Z</dc:date>
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