topic How to reduce time for log in / open teamwork files everyday in Teamwork & BIMcloud

How to reduce time for log in / open teamwork files everyday

Anonymous — Mon, 26 Mar 2012 09:53:47 GMT

Hi all,

We're working on a project with about 12 people in team. Every morning we open teamwork file at the same time and it's very easy to crash out. Then we have to open file one by one (it's stop crashing). But it's take much time for that job every day with 12 people and I'm looking for a better solution.

Any of you had similar issue? Could you provide some ideas for that

Re: How to reduce time for log in / open teamwork files ever

Karl Ottenstein — Mon, 26 Mar 2012 17:40:58 GMT

It sounds like you must have signed out of the project the prior night? Graphisoft recommends staying signed in until you actually stop working on the project. Just be sure to send/receive changes before leaving for the day, but stay signed in.

What are others doing in practice?

Karl

Re: How to reduce time for log in / open teamwork files ever

Dennis Lee — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 00:00:02 GMT

Yeah, we have 4 people, we almost never LEAVE the teamwork project. Just send / receive, and release all before closing.

Re: How to reduce time for log in / open teamwork files ever

Stress Co_ — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 02:33:32 GMT

Karl wrote:
Graphisoft recommends staying signed in until you actually stop working on the project.

Read it HERE

Re: How to reduce time for log in / open teamwork files ever

Anonymous — Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:36:00 GMT

Hi all,

Yes I didn't leave & re-join the project, just close / open everyday. But we're 2 team in different countries working on the same teamwork file. Our model take 10-15' to open everytime. It's mean ~2h everyday for opening files. As I said, the main issue in our project is many people open file at the same time will cause crash & error in local data-> re-join again

One solution we thinking about is leave at least 2 or 3 computers stay through nights everyday. However we're looking for somthing better!

Re: How to reduce time for log in / open teamwork files ever

Anonymous — Thu, 29 Mar 2012 04:23:47 GMT

Hi all,

Any further advise? Please!

How others doing in practice? Did you take much time for opening file every morning with many people in a big model?

Re: How to reduce time for log in / open teamwork files ever

Anonymous — Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:56:38 GMT

I'd look at trying to reduce file size to improve the opening speed as another tactic. I don't know how the file/s are set up at the moment, but you could look at splitting your project into 2 files - model file and file for your layouts. Also: reducing the polycount should help, minimising sections and elevations in the project, and reducing the amount of drawings (like dwgs from consultants for example) in the project file.

hope that helps...?

Re: How to reduce time for log in / open teamwork files ever

Dennis Lee — Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:55:06 GMT

What are your Bim server specs? Is it on a dedicated machine? Processor? Ram?

Re: How to reduce time for log in / open teamwork files ever

Anonymous — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 07:00:54 GMT

Mark wrote:
I'd look at trying to reduce file size to improve the opening speed as another tactic. I don't know how the file/s are set up at the moment, but you could look at splitting your project into 2 files - model file and file for your layouts. Also: reducing the polycount should help, minimising sections and elevations in the project, and reducing the amount of drawings (like dwgs from consultants for example) in the project file.

hope that helps...?

Hi Mark,

Yes we did. We even split into 3 files, 1 for model, 1 for views, 1 one layouts. We re-shared model regularly when the model get too big (>2gb) & it's helped!

Beside, we're just client of BIM Server, connect to it from another country. Out IT checked connections and actually it's a bit slower at our end.

Another thing is we integrated Structure (steelwork) & MEP (from Revit) into our model so probably that's why the model was big.

@ Lee: I didn't remember Bim server spec. But it's a separated server for Bim projects & it's probably powerful enough for using (unless they store too many big projects there).

I'm still looking for ways to reduce time for opening files (as I said above) or need to find the ways to fix the crashing when more than 1 people open the same teamwork files at the same time!!!

Re: How to reduce time for log in / open teamwork files ever

Anonymous — Fri, 06 Jul 2012 01:18:50 GMT

When they say stay signed in I believe the mean - don't switch off your machine. At least that is what we have started doing. We switch off monitors and walk out. Not the most environmental solution but it saves the 10-15min opening up/logging in in the morning.
On conserving file size - we work on some medium sized projects ($20-$40m aud) and file sizes have become an issue from time to time. Generally I have found if your file is over 400meg its time to look into trimming the fat.
Before separating layouts into a separate file (connected by views published to .pmk is still the best strategy so far - for this for update times) and losing all your automatic tagging, have a look at your embedded library.
I have found this to be a big culprit on many occasions. In particular in 12-13-14 where having the IFC 2x3 plugin enabled when saving out a custom object caused a modest facade object, normally less than 1 meg to be almost 100 meg large!
Export your embedded library from the library manager and have a look at the folder by file size. Then check the number of placed instances in the library manager etc and begin weeding!

The last time i did this my 800meg monster was reduced to a svelte 314 meg.

good luck

Re: How to reduce time for log in / open teamwork files ever

Anonymous — Thu, 26 Jul 2012 13:14:03 GMT

Nice signature Angry (3D to 3D construction docs FTW)

Riiiiv - what's your line speed like? Even with the split that I mentioned I'm having issues signing in remotely - the problem is the initial download of the file - it almost always fails (error messages reads: "Failed to get project file. Server returns error code").

We're on a 1Mb/s line which is too slow I believe, but it's really about the upload speed on the other side from me (40kb/s O.o) so trying to download a TW file that's 1.2 Gb is madness IMHO. anyone else dealing with slow lines like this? any clever solutions out there?

regarding files splitting - another option I've used is to split the model into modules as well as the normal model/layout split. See attached pic that illustrates the project setup.