topic Re: from AC13 to AC15 in Teamwork & BIMcloud

from AC13 to AC15

alemanda — Thu, 22 Sep 2011 09:24:25 GMT

Hi guys,
I'm still working on AC13.
I'd like to pass gradually to AC15.
I'm working on several projects under AC13 bimserver.
Is it safe to install AC15 bimserver migrating all projects actually on AC13 bimserver to AC15 bimserver? I understood it is not possible to keep both of the bimservers.
Is it possible working with AC13 using AC15 bimserver?
Thanks

Re: from AC13 to AC15

JaredBanks — Thu, 22 Sep 2011 21:13:12 GMT

Here's what the wiki says:

http://www.archicadwiki.com/Teamwork/AC15BimServerBestPractices

Graphisoft recommends migrating to the latest version and keeping only 1 BIM server installed at a time.

Re: from AC13 to AC15

tsturm — Tue, 22 Nov 2011 17:08:20 GMT

I am trying to install AC15 BIM server. The install wizard says that I cannot complete the install until I do a hotfix for the AC14 BIM server. Where do I find this hotfix? My AC14 BIM is build 3004. I think there is build 3006??

Re: from AC13 to AC15

JaredBanks — Tue, 22 Nov 2011 17:10:58 GMT

latest AC14 (As of 11/22/11)
http://www.graphisoft.com/support/archicad/downloads/ReleaseNotes/AC14-3862to4044-ReleaseNotes.html

latest AC15 (As of 11/22/11)
http://www.graphisoft.com/support/archicad/downloads/ReleaseNotes/AC15-3003to3267-ReleaseNotes.html

Re: from AC13 to AC15

tsturm — Tue, 22 Nov 2011 18:05:36 GMT

Jared, please see my tag line. I have the latest updates to AC 14 and AC 15.

I am trying to do is get my BIM server updated. See the attached image.

I shall download the hotfix and run the installer. However, since this was already done once before. I am not sure what it shall change.

Can there be more than one BIM server on a machine? AC14 and AC15, presuming they are not running at the same time?

I read a page on Graphisoft site which stated that the AC15 BIM server can be run along with AC14TW projects. Did I read this correctly?

Re: from AC13 to AC15

JaredBanks — Tue, 22 Nov 2011 18:35:24 GMT

You might want to try calling tech support as they should hopefully be able to be of more use.

When you run the hotfix, you should be able to update the BIM server as well. Try it again and see if it works. IF you have no projects on the BIM server you could also uninstall and reinstall it.

Also if you can just migrate everything to 15 and forget about the 14 BIM server. We did that at SALA and opening the v14 files in v15 and uploading them to the 15 BIM server went smoothly.

Re: from AC13 to AC15

tsturm — Tue, 22 Nov 2011 20:00:55 GMT

Jared

I figured out the problem. I had updated AC14 before I had installed AC14 BIM server. I have only recently started using AC14. I wanted to use TW on a project and found out that the TW was part of BIM server. So the last few days I have been installing the other parts of AC14. Which is how AC14 BIM server was not on the same build as the software. I downloaded the hotfix for AC14, ran it to get the now installed BIM server updated. See attachment.

Re: from AC13 to AC15

tsturm — Tue, 22 Nov 2011 20:02:12 GMT

Then I ran the same process for AC15 BIM server. See attachment.

Everything now all seems to be on the same build. Off to the races as they say.

Re: from AC13 to AC15

JaredBanks — Tue, 22 Nov 2011 20:51:35 GMT

AWESOME.

I've never seen a screen shot with both v14 and v15 BIM server modules installed. Didn't realize they'd show up together. Good to know!

Glad you got it all figured out.

Re: from AC13 to AC15

Laszlo Nagy — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 15:28:19 GMT

JaredBanks wrote:
I've never seen a screen shot with both v14 and v15 BIM server modules installed. Didn't realize they'd show up together. Good to know!

Hi Jared,
Then you will like this screen shot even more.

Re: from AC13 to AC15

JaredBanks — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 21:45:52 GMT

Very cool. I thought we were supposed to uninstall the 13 module before adding 15.

Re: from AC13 to AC15

Mats_Knutsson — Thu, 26 Jan 2012 08:58:34 GMT

...I'm running projects in AC13 and AC14 and want to start one in AC15...what I gather from this post is that I can have all three modules running on the BIMserver....the ACwiki is very "should not" but not "can not"...so I guess it works with all three modules but it is not recommended...
We can't migrate any of the projects so that's not an option.
Regards,
Mats

Re: from AC13 to AC15

Karl Ottenstein — Thu, 26 Jan 2012 16:21:29 GMT

Mats_Knutsson wrote:
...I'm running projects in AC13 and AC14 and want to start one in AC15...what I gather from this post is that I can have all three modules running on the BIMserver....the ACwiki is very "should not" but not "can not"...so I guess it works with all three modules but it is not recommended...

Hi Mats,

Can you give a link to the article with the "should not"? The idea of the modular BIM Server is that you can run the modules for different versions as shown in Laszlo's screenshot. But, you should not be running multiple BIM Servers (which host the modules) on the same computer - and you should of course be running the latest version of BIM Server, since only it will support the latest modules. But, maybe I missed something.

Cheers,
Karl

Re: from AC13 to AC15

Mats_Knutsson — Mon, 30 Jan 2012 17:30:33 GMT

Karl wrote:
Mats_Knutsson wrote:
...I'm running projects in AC13 and AC14 and want to start one in AC15...what I gather from this post is that I can have all three modules running on the BIMserver....the ACwiki is very "should not" but not "can not"...so I guess it works with all three modules but it is not recommended...
Hi Mats,

Can you give a link to the article with the "should not"? The idea of the modular BIM Server is that you can run the modules for different versions as shown in Laszlo's screenshot. But, you should not be running multiple BIM Servers (which host the modules) on the same computer - and you should of course be running the latest version of BIM Server, since only it will support the latest modules. But, maybe I missed something.

Cheers,
Karl

I must have misinterpreted the message on the wiki. I can't find the particlar text I was referring to...so now when the team is at home lounging/watching TV/eating dinner with the family...I'll add the 15 module on our virtualized BIM server.
Thank for putting me on the straight route Karl!
Mats

Re: from AC13 to AC15

Karl Ottenstein — Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:01:11 GMT

Mats_Knutsson wrote:
...so now when the team is at home lounging/watching TV/eating dinner with the family...I'll add the 15 module on our virtualized BIM server.

Your firm is lucky to have someone who never leaves the office. 🙂

Hope it all goes smoothly. 😉

Cheers,
Karl

Re: from AC13 to AC15

Mats_Knutsson — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 08:54:20 GMT

Karl wrote:
Mats_Knutsson wrote:
...so now when the team is at home lounging/watching TV/eating dinner with the family...I'll add the 15 module on our virtualized BIM server.
Your firm is lucky to have someone who never leaves the office. 🙂

Hope it all goes smoothly. 😉

Cheers,
Karl

It was a smooth ride. Really easy. Thanks and cheers
Next interesting thing will be to try client virtualization...