topic Re: BIM Server Library issue in Teamwork & BIMcloud

BIM Server Library issue

ksjhawk — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:30:21 GMT

I have a problem that I have not yet seen posted...I migrated a file from AC12 thru creating a .pla file of the original teamwork file (I have also tried via simply sharing the .plp after opening in AC13, with no luck either). Once I open the file and share it, I cannot figure out how to gain access to the default AC13 Library.

I have uploaded the library thru the BIM Library Manager dialog box to the BIM Server. Here, I also see my extracted .pla file's library already loaded. When I open the Library Manager dialog box, all I see is my .pla extracted library, but not eh default AC13 Library. I have tried reloading, refreshing, removing and replacing the default library with no luck.

In testing and working out issues, I have set up the BIM Server on an unused machine on our network. It is running 10.5.8, but no server os. I have admin access. Everything at this point seems to be fine, but I can't seem to take advantage of the default library.

Any thoughts? Thanks in advance...

Re: BIM Server Library issue

ksjhawk — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:33:23 GMT

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Re: BIM Server Library issue

Karl Ottenstein — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:40:03 GMT

In Library Manager, to the right of the huge "Add..." button, notice the tiny button with a triangle on it. Click that ... browse to your server and add the AC 13 library. (User interface at its friendliest. Not.)

HTH,
Karl

Re: BIM Server Library issue

ksjhawk — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:43:18 GMT

also though...when all else fails, read the directions...i've done some dumber things in the past...i recently realized this by reading an excerpt from the archicad help menu...don't forget, you have to reserve the libraries first in a teamwork situation...

thank you though Karl...

Re: BIM Server Library issue

dearmariana — Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:02:48 GMT

What if I've done all that and we still can't access our libraries?
We had a project that we were working on from two different computers, one AC13 one AC12... sharing the file over our network. We upgraded the AC12 to 13 and decided to give teamwork a try. Uploaded the server and all appropriate libraries. But we have missing objects everywhere, and no ability to add new objects. In the BIM library manager window, our libraries have been uploaded. In the Library Manager for the file, they are not listed under BIM Libraries, nor can we add them anymore. Whereas you used to be able to 'chose' a library, it now asks us to 'open' and 'open' and 'open' until we get all the way down to specific elements.

going crazy here. HELP!

Re: BIM Server Library issue

Laszlo Nagy — Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:24:36 GMT

In the Library Manager Window, there is the Manage BIM Server Libraries button.
If you click it, you go to the Manage BIM Server Libraries Dialog, where you can login to the BIM Server and it will list the available libraries.
You need to select the Library in the list that you wish to add to your project and click the Add button. That will take you back to the Library manager Dialog and the library you just added will be listed under BIM Server Libraries. Then you need to Reload Libraries.
Is this what you are doing?

Re: BIM Server Library issue

dearmariana — Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:17:14 GMT

Hi laszlonagy, thanks for replying...

That is exactly what we did. Our libraries are listed correctly under the BIM Server Libraries in the Library Manager Dialog. We reloaded the libraries.

Then, when we want to create an object, in the Object Settings Dialog, where you should be able to search through the libraries - you cannot. They are not listed.

Any ideas?
thanks, Mariana

Re: BIM Server Library issue

Laszlo Nagy — Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:46:04 GMT

Can you post a screenshot or two about this?
So you are saying that the library is loaded but the elements within the library are not listed in the Object Settings Dialog?

Re: BIM Server Library issue

dearmariana — Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:51:03 GMT

Sure - Our interface is in Italian, so sorry if I get the English names of things wrong...

here's the Library Manager Window

Re: BIM Server Library issue

dearmariana — Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:57:25 GMT

... and here's the Object Settings Window

Re: BIM Server Library issue

dearmariana — Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:59:41 GMT

laszlonagy wrote:
So you are saying that the library is loaded but the elements within the library are not listed in the Object Settings Dialog?

That's what I'm saying.
Is there something we've just overlooked maybe?

thanks, Mariana

Re: BIM Server Library issue

Laszlo Nagy — Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:21:35 GMT

What you are showing on the first image is the Manage BIM Server Libraries Dialog. It shows that Libraries available on the BIM Server. This does not mean that what you see here is added to the Project.

Go to the Library Manager Dialog and Add the BIM Server Library to the Project. Click the right-pointing arrow button to the right of the Add button at the top, choose Use BIM Server Library. In the new Dialog choose the BIM Server, select the Library from the List and click the Add button. That takes you back to the Library Manager Dialog.
Then Reload the Libraries.
The library of your choice must be in the list of Libraries in the Library Manager for it to be available in the Project.

Re: BIM Server Library issue

dearmariana — Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:34:55 GMT

laszlonagy wrote:
Go to the Library Manager Dialog and Add the BIM Server Library to the Project. Click the right-pointing arrow button to the right of the Add button at the top, choose Use BIM Server Library.

We can't.

I understand what you're saying.

But when we click 'add', we get a dialog that looks like the one attached. We select 'browse for embedded objects', the only option.

Then we can never actually open the libraries... it forces us to 'open' all the way down to the element. That's confusing - I'll send another photo of that...

Re: BIM Server Library issue

dearmariana — Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:36:26 GMT

Do you understand what I mean? Is there a different library file we should be trying?

Re: BIM Server Library issue

Laszlo Nagy — Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:48:51 GMT

I think you Teamwork Role does not allow you to Manager Libraries.
You need to go to the BIM Server Manager and make sure that you have a Role that has the "Libraries Add/Modify" enabled. Otherwise the "Use BIM Server Libraries" option does not even appear in the Library Manager Dialog.
You can modify either the default Role you are assigned. Or you can modify your Role only for this Project.
In either case I think you will need to Leave the Project and then Join again before the changes can take effect.

Re: BIM Server Library issue

dearmariana — Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:56:22 GMT

Thanks I'll try that right now and get back to you. I'm not sure how the Role could have changed, because we've only been using one computer to test Teamwork. The other computer won't even start ArchiCAD since we added it to Teamwork. Someone told us it has something to do with Snow Leopard and our font book... but that's a whole different issue.

I'll get back to you in a minute... the computer is in use right now.
Thanks, Mariana

Re: BIM Server Library issue

dearmariana — Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:11:00 GMT

laszlonagy wrote:
I think you Teamwork Role does not allow you to Manager Libraries.
You need to go to the BIM Server Manager and make sure that you have a Role that has the "Libraries Add/Modify" enabled. Otherwise the "Use BIM Server Libraries" option does not even appear in the Library Manager Dialog.
You can modify either the default Role you are assigned. Or you can modify your Role only for this Project.
In either case I think you will need to Leave the Project and then Join again before the changes can take effect.

Thank you so much! This worked. We had not realized the difference in abilities between 'architetto' and 'architetto capo'. Thanks for all your help.

Now just have to figure out why AC13 is crashing on Snow Leopard. I'll search the posts...

Re: BIM Server Library issue

Laszlo Nagy — Wed, 31 Mar 2010 10:40:37 GMT

You are welcome.

Architetto capo is Lead Architect, I guess.
Yes, that Role has access to everything.
The normal Architect Role is is more limited, not allowed to manage the Project, make changes to attributes, libraries etc.