topic Re: Teamwork erratic behavior... in Teamwork & BIMcloud

Teamwork erratic behavior...

Achille Pavlidis — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:35:37 GMT

At first I was very pleased with the new Teamwork 2, i saw it as a great enhancement and leap forward...

Since i have been using it though my opinion is rapidly changing...
Teamwork 2 is getting on my nerves...

After this, now i have a new problem...
Today when i try to "Send & Receive", i get this error message: "A serious error has occurred during the receive process. Before you can continue editing this project, you must return to its latest Autosaved version. Any changes you made since the last Autosave will be lost!"
Then, when i click "Restore from Autosave", i get the message to receive changes, and on clicking "Receive now" i get the previous message again, entering an endless loop of error messages!

Re: Teamwork erratic behavior...

gkovacsp — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:54:37 GMT

Please don't give up on Teamwork yet!

Something went wrong somewhere (I guess you figured that out).

In order to save data from Autosave (If you have any valuable, but yet unsent changes on your computer) please stop the server and try to open the project again - it will open in offline mode. Save it as a PLN.

Next Close ArchiCAD and go to the Local Data fodler, usually:

Documents and Settings\USERNAME\Graphisoft\TW Data

Delete the folder, which contains your project's name.

Start the server and try joining again.
If you saved the PLN previously open it in another ArchiCAD and copy/paste the changes into the TW project.

Hope it helps,
Gabor

Re: Teamwork erratic behavior...

Achille Pavlidis — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:31:42 GMT

Gabor, the problem happened again today...
I'm following your instructions...
What i notice is this: In my local TW folder i have several folders with different creation dates which all start with the name of the project i'm working on... i have changed the project name over time because of the various versions that evolve. For example it was "305 AMFIAREIO first version", "305 AMFIAREIO second version", "305 AMFIAREIO third version" etc... and all these projects were shared. In the TW data folder i only see "305 AMFIAREIO" followed by a code. See attached image. Is it possible that this could be a problem?

Re: Teamwork erratic behavior...

gkovacsp — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:35:41 GMT

The projects are identified by "the code", the name at the beginning is truncated to n characters and only for the user. So that shouldn'T be a problem.

Re: Teamwork erratic behavior...

gkovacsp — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:36:04 GMT

I've heard technical support picked up the case, hopefully they will be able to help you.

Re: Teamwork erratic behavior...

Achille Pavlidis — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:52:08 GMT

Thank you very much!

Re: Teamwork erratic behavior...

Achille Pavlidis — Thu, 10 Feb 2011 08:38:57 GMT

The last few days, when i open a TW file, in the BIM server window a have 2 files which show with the red icon and are listed as "Joined, Unsent changes" whereas i have sent changes and saved my local copy. If triple checked it and there is no way to get it right. I'm always listed as having unsent changes. Another file which was listed as being OK, when i opened it, gave the message that it was modified and i was forced to "Discard & Reload"....

what's going on???

Re: Teamwork erratic behavior...

gkovacsp — Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:53:14 GMT

In some rare cases the unsent check makes a mistake. Can't tell the exact circumstances, but if you see it right after a send and receive, then do not worry...

Re: Teamwork erratic behavior...

Achille Pavlidis — Thu, 10 Feb 2011 11:09:42 GMT

But in those particular 2 projects i always get the "unsent changes"... for many days now... how this can be fixed?

Re: Teamwork erratic behavior...

gkovacsp — Thu, 10 Feb 2011 11:48:42 GMT

no idea

Re: Teamwork erratic behavior...

Achille Pavlidis — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 07:28:04 GMT

Now thats a relief...

Re: Teamwork erratic behavior...

Achille Pavlidis — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 14:49:02 GMT

Thought i'd share this one, in case there is anyone interested...

When i "Open/Join teamwork project" the list appears saying that i have unsent changes

But instead when i choose to "Place a drawing from an external teamwork file" the same dialog appears just fine...

Re: Teamwork erratic behavior...

Anonymous — Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:06:13 GMT

When do you choose "Place a drawing from an external teamwork file"
and get that other dialog that seems ok?

I often have problems with TW2 when I use several computers (some of them are in the office, others are at home) with same user
and sometimes I get "unset changes" even though they are set,
but mostly I have problems with Bim server showing offline when it's not...
I figure out my firewall is causing this, so I turned it off
and now everything seems to work just fine...

Re: Teamwork erratic behavior...

vfrontiers — Wed, 06 Apr 2011 13:27:13 GMT

Not sure if there are already posts about these issues, but I wanted to voice my frustration with TW2 as well...

This same scenario applies to all issues...
BIMSERVER = iMac / OsX 10.5.8
Slave 1 = PC LAPTOP / Win7 64bit
Slave 2 = MacPRO (SF) / OsX 10.6.?

1. Text Boxes with the SAME FONT show up 20%-25% shorter on the MacPro. Making drawing around text boxes (like revision triangles) impossible to keep aligned... So, to be clear, when I open it up on my iMac, text boxes are longer and often run off the page... If I fix them, then they appear 25% shorter on the MacPRO. And, of course, this works in reverse. If text blocks editing on MacPRO, when I view them on iMac, they are longer...

In addition, when edited on the MacPRO, then looked at on the iMac, it is obvious that the text block (hotspots) are fixed in the place they were on the MacPRO, but the actual text is running over them..

2. Story levels are not consistent between the two macs... If I set up an elevation with story levels and all looks fine in elev window and layout, opening the elevation on the MacPRO... the story markers disappear... Then, when the layout is opened and the elevation is UPDATED, they are gone from the layout version as well.

Opening the same elevation back up on the iMac will show that the ELEV Markers are still SELECTED TO SHOW in the dialog box, but are not showing in the elev. window or on the layout. Typically either a REBUILD (not from model, crap that would be really horrible) brings them back or deselecting and re-selecting their visibility in the dialog box brings them back...

There are other more isolated incidents of items disappearing and changes not making it back to the host file, but virtually un-documentable...

Just wondering if others have experienced similar issues... I am ready to relegate the text block issue to the difference between Leopard and Snow Leopard... but cannot update mine without major overhaul of the contents of my iMac.

3. I have installed the same font on my PC and simply can't get them to match, so I cannot even work on my Win7 machine...

Re: Teamwork erratic behavior...

vfrontiers — Wed, 06 Apr 2011 13:30:14 GMT

BTW.. just to lend some urgency to these issues....

Though they may seem "cosmetic", try publishing a set of drawings while two people are working on it and these issues exist.... It's a nightmare trying to check and recheck all the text blocks for printability.

And, it really means that only ONE person can work on texts AND THAT person has to do the publishing....

Frustrating....

Re: Teamwork erratic behavior...

Achille Pavlidis — Wed, 06 Apr 2011 13:32:53 GMT

vfrontiers wrote:

2. Story levels are not consistent between the two macs... If I set up an elevation with story levels and all looks fine in elev window and layout, opening the elevation on the MacPRO... the story markers disappear... Then, when the layout is opened and the elevation is UPDATED, they are gone from the layout version as well.

Opening the same elevation back up on the iMac will show that the ELEV Markers are still SELECTED TO SHOW in the dialog box, but are not showing in the elev. window or on the layout. Typically either a REBUILD (not from model, crap that would be really horrible) brings them back or deselecting and re-selecting their visibility in the dialog box brings them back...

There are other more isolated incidents of items disappearing and changes not making it back to the host file, but virtually un-documentable...

Just wondering if others have experienced similar issues... I am ready to relegate the text block issue to the difference between Leopard and Snow Leopard... but cannot update mine without major overhaul of the contents of my iMac.

I have experienced the same issue...
very frustrating indeed

Re: Teamwork erratic behavior...

David Maudlin — Thu, 07 Apr 2011 12:08:28 GMT

vfrontiers wrote:
BIMSERVER = iMac / OsX 10.5.8
Slave 1 = PC LAPTOP / Win7 64bit
Slave 2 = MacPRO (SF) / OsX 10.6.?

1. Text Boxes with the SAME FONT show up 20%-25% shorter on the MacPro. Making drawing around text boxes (like revision triangles) impossible to keep aligned... So, to be clear, when I open it up on my iMac, text boxes are longer and often run off the page... If I fix them, then they appear 25% shorter on the MacPRO. And, of course, this works in reverse. If text blocks editing on MacPRO, when I view them on iMac, they are longer...

In addition, when edited on the MacPRO, then looked at on the iMac, it is obvious that the text block (hotspots) are fixed in the place they were on the MacPRO, but the actual text is running over them...

Duane:

This topic from the ArchiCADWiki may explain the font issue:
BugsMac_OSX_10.6.7_Update_Causes_PDF_Font_Issues

David

Re: Teamwork erratic behavior...

vfrontiers — Thu, 07 Apr 2011 13:26:00 GMT

So, as I read the article.. I can either get both systems matching to relieve the problem (not really possible directly for me as hard drive is at capacity)...

Or convert to OPEN TYPE TRUETYPE font...

So a couple of questions that I will seek answers to over the next week or so...

1. is there a utility to convert regular TrueType to OPEN Type?

2. Can I set up the FONT CONVERSION the article speaks of (automatically, I mean.. Obviously I can go and change each of the 1000+ text boxes and labels to the newly created font)...

3. Will ArchiCAD recognize this font change... Typically you get the [BAD FONT] listing in the text attributes when a font is deleted from the system (or disabled)...

Like there aren't already enough challenges to creating a successful architectural project these days..... Gotta love technology..

Re: Teamwork erratic behavior...

vfrontiers — Thu, 07 Apr 2011 13:27:27 GMT

I swear I only hit the SUBMIT button once! not sure why two posts popped up...

Re: Teamwork erratic behavior...

Achille Pavlidis — Thu, 26 Jul 2012 08:42:29 GMT

To bring up the subject...

In AC16 TW I have noticed improvement in the time to open and send/receive, but on the other hand there are some issues when working with meshes that have a lot of SEOs. Even if the file is not very large (260MB) and works pretty smoothly as solo PLN, when shared it takes significantly more time to generate a section/elevation or 3d view.

Also there seems to be some problem with splines in TW. Every time a users creates splines gets a message of "invalid elements" when he sends and every time he opens his local copy...