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creat a rendering that looks like a water color?

Anonymous — Thu, 11 May 2023 10:25:48 GMT

Hey guys,
i have a client that wouldl like me to do some schematic renderings and really like the look of water color or a hand marker rendering. Is this possible with ArchiCAD, lightworks, Artlantis? If so can some one give me some setting so i can test this out. i have posted an example of the style they wanted...really in a time crunch on this one.

Re: creat a rendering that looks like a water color?

Anonymous — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:35:51 GMT

Try the sketch engine and fill the colors in photoshop

Re: creat a rendering that looks like a water color?

Dwight — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:20:47 GMT

A good watercolor or a bad one?

If you have photoshop, visit the "photoshop actions" site - just google that.
Photoshop actions are pre-recorded macros that use the crude photoshop filters in subtle ways for unique results. there are many actions there for free. it is fun.

Photoshop does have a watercolor filter but it is best to combine it with another filter so it is not so obvious or: apply the watercolor filter several times with small effect rather than one huge distortion all at once.

Re: creat a rendering that looks like a water color?

Anonymous — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:46:17 GMT

THAT SOUNDS GOOD LET ME TRY THAT

Re: creat a rendering that looks like a water color?

Dwight — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 15:02:23 GMT

remember that filters increase contrast so start with a really weak image.

Re: creat a rendering that looks like a water color?

Karl Ottenstein — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:11:10 GMT

b.trenga wrote:
Hey guys,
i have a client that wouldl like me to do some schematic renderings and really like the look of water color or a hand marker rendering.

Based on your example, you really want to use Piranesi which can acheive exactly that appearance...once you learn to use it and assuming you are a bit artistic yourself.

Nothing will achieve that automatically.

Photoshop filters can give a nice look - but not the one you've shown, nor one that is particularly artistic unless you do a bit of masking and manual brush work too.

Another tip from a Piranesi Expert, Susan Sorger, is to insert hand-painted entourage - people/trees/sky - into a computer-painted image, as the viewer will latch onto the handwork of those elements and easily believe that the entire image was hand-painted. (Susan sells libraries of her hand-painted entourage, if her style happens to fit your needs. Your image shows marker people rather than painted people, though.)

There is a 30 day trial version of Piranesi here:
http://www.informatix.co.uk/piranesi/downloads/windows/demo.shtml
along with some tutorials/etc. (The full product comes with 100's of textures and cutouts - not present in the demo download.)

Informatix gallery here:
http://www.informatix.co.uk/piranesi/gallery.shtml

Also, visit the Piranesi forums and user gallery (ranging from really, really bad to pretty good stuff) here:
http://www.informatixsoftware.com/forums/

Because the 'art' part is the user him/herself - you cannot judge the software by the images, but merely use them to suggest possibilities.

A true 'wet' watercolor is not possible in Piranesi though. (Corel Painter, and some other software, allow you to adjust the wetness of the paper and the drying time of your brush to determine the spread of washes, blending of colors, etc.)

(Every effect in your sample image is possible in Piranesi...in fact, that image looks more computer-manipulated than hand-painted based on the sky and the uniformity of the grass gradient.)

Have fun with it,
Karl

Re: creat a rendering that looks like a water color?

Anonymous — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:18:01 GMT

I DONT REALLY HAVE TIME TO LEARN ANOTHER PROGRAM FOR THIS ONE, BUT I HAVE FOUND A PRETTY GOOD METHOD TO ACHIEVE THE LOOK. IF YOU RENDER IN LIGHT WORKS AND BRING INTO PHOTOSHOP WORKING WITH THE FILTERS TO GET A GOOD BASE IMAGE. THEN RENDER A PEN AND INK SKETCH RENDER AND OVERLAY THAT ON THE LIGHT WORKS RENDER WITH SOME SOME TRANSPARENCY IT LOOK PRETTY DAM GOOD!

Re: creat a rendering that looks like a water color?

Karl Ottenstein — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:26:11 GMT

b.trenga wrote:
I DONT REALLY HAVE TIME TO LEARN ANOTHER PROGRAM FOR THIS ONE, BUT I HAVE FOUND A PRETTY GOOD METHOD TO ACHIEVE THE LOOK. IF YOU RENDER IN LIGHT WORKS AND BRING INTO PHOTOSHOP WORKING WITH THE FILTERS TO GET A GOOD BASE IMAGE. THEN RENDER A PEN AND INK SKETCH RENDER AND OVERLAY THAT ON THE LIGHT WORKS RENDER WITH SOME SOME TRANSPARENCY IT LOOK PRETTY DAM GOOD!

Please at least take the time to turn off CAP LOCK! 🙂

Yes, that method is the standard/fast way to get a non-photorealistic look... it just isn't the marker look that you asked for in your original post. As long as the client is happy, that's great. 😉

Karl

Re: creat a rendering that looks like a water color?

Anonymous — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:00:57 GMT

Don't forget the good old fashioned approach of printing a background and finishing by hand. My partner and I still do some of our best (and fastest) work this way.

Re: creat a rendering that looks like a water color?

Anonymous — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:13:50 GMT

Piranesi is the hero..but still here i've learned another method from this forum..is to render in LWRDE and the same view with a sketch rendering engine " no shadows, no vectorial hatching" and have booth in Photoshop and just add the Sketch as an " overlay" layer..and a marvellous view would be there.. or even some mix with erase tool in photoshop really marvellous and easy !!
thanx for the all the guys here that showed us this method !!

Re: creat a rendering that looks like a water color?

Anonymous — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 13:46:15 GMT

ok so this is what i have so far, now keep in mind i really only had one day to do this project from start to finish. i.e. design, build model, and render final image. I could not get a water color look that i like using light works and photoshop so i did a combination of light works, sketch render and photoshop. Let me know what you guys think.

Re: creat a rendering that looks like a water color?

Rakela Raul — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:10:15 GMT

i think it is beautiful.. ..and whatever's technike is also really nice

i wish u could post a step by step procedure

Re: creat a rendering that looks like a water color?

Anonymous — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:19:34 GMT

yeah like i mentioned before very simple
take your light works rendering ( make sure its a saved view so its the same as the next step) and bring it to photoshop

Re: creat a rendering that looks like a water color?

Anonymous — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:21:40 GMT

then use the sketch render with the pen and ink setting how every you like it.

Re: creat a rendering that looks like a water color?

Anonymous — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:24:27 GMT

take both of these images into photoshop and make sure the sketch image its on the bottom layer so every thing looks more artistic and faded. then add the light works image on top of that set to about 50% opacity, then fill in your back round with the actual site images also set to 50% so it all matches

Re: creat a rendering that looks like a water color?

Rakela Raul — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:21:14 GMT

super !!!!, thx a ton b.t.

Re: creat a rendering that looks like a water color?

Robert Fuchs — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:44:10 GMT

That rendering looks great. I had a client want the same style for their project. I rendered it in Artlantis and did a sketch rendering in AC. I did as you, in that I layered the images. I put the colored image on bottom and the sketched image on top. I ran the water color filter in PS on the colored image
then used the texture filter on the colored image to make it look like it was on canvas. I then used the eraser @ 50% trans to erase the sketch rendering
till I got the effect I wanted.

Re: creat a rendering that looks like a water color?

Anonymous — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:57:38 GMT

This is great stuff guys. I have been advocating this approach for a long time and it's great to see such good work. I get tired sometimes of all the obsession over radiosity, caustics and all the other stuff that it takes to make "photo" renderings that don't work (no matter how good they are) for schematic phase presentations. It is refreshing to see renderings that begin to approach the artistic quality of hand techniques.

Re: creat a rendering that looks like a water color?

Anonymous — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:15:50 GMT

I agree, i mean photo rendering have a great use with completed design and for marketing purposes. For S.D and early on these rendering do not give the client the idea that the design is finished. This gives a great hand sketched feeling and even if all the details are not worked out you cant tell.

Re: creat a rendering that looks like a water color?

Anonymous — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 20:02:43 GMT

Ok so the client wanted to see more veggitation so here is latest version