topic Re: Problem with rendering in Visualization

Problem with rendering

Anonymous — Thu, 11 May 2023 10:18:37 GMT

Hi people!
I'm new here

So, I've got a few issues and I need some help.
I found a great site for downloading objects and textures; http://www.archibaseplanet.com/
But when I'm rendering pictures with objects they sometimes just get grey. This is often with pretty advanced objects like humans with skin, hari, clothes... or flowers etc...

What am I missing here?

As you can see here on the picture, both the woman and the flowers are grey. I can't figure out why!
Hope someone out there can give me a hand

Re: Problem with rendering

Anonymous — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 12:20:23 GMT

I know who this is!
It's Death from Terry Pratchet's Disc world! 😉

Re: Problem with rendering

Anonymous — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 13:12:06 GMT

Haha, that's funny
But can you help me? I'm having the same problem with some sofa's to...

Re: Problem with rendering

Eduardo Rolon — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 13:41:03 GMT

kliment wrote:
I know who this is!
It's Death from Terry Pratchet's Disc world! 😉

I think you confused your Death's.

Terry Pratchett's is a he, skeleton and SPEAKS IN ALL CAPS.

Neil Gaiman's is a girl
___

Reeves, check that the material (and associated texture) specified by the object is in the library and/or check the material override settings.

Re: Problem with rendering

Anonymous — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:30:21 GMT

Try looking through this thread -

http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=24240

I think the problem stems from the materials not being defined correctly in the converted library part.

Whether Archibase realise this or not I don't know, as it seems pretty pointless to claim to provide GDL versions that clearly don't work properly.

Re: Problem with rendering

Anonymous — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:47:36 GMT

I am not impressed by the quallity ov the objects from this site either. They claim to offer gdl models while in fact these are converted 3ds models.

1. You have to check "Use objects Materials"!
2. Assign materials to the ones, showing General"!
3. As Eduardo pointed out, check if you have all the necessary maps and materials in the loaded library!

Re: Problem with rendering

Anonymous — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:58:56 GMT

Thanks for the quick help guys!
I still havn't fixed the problem, but I'll keep on trying 😉
The deadline of my project was friday so I made up a crise solution 😉

But you don't like the site. Do you have any other good sites for
downloading intellegent objects and textures to ArchiCad?

Re: Problem with rendering

Anonymous — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:53:27 GMT

Reeves wrote:
Do you have any other good sites for downloading intellegent objects and textures to ArchiCad?

Yeah, Object Depository! 😉

Re: Problem with rendering

Anonymous — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:25:00 GMT

Reeves wrote:
Do you have any other good sites for
downloading intellegent objects and textures to ArchiCad?

Have a look at objectstop.com
However due to the time that goes into GDL, most of our products are not free. In saying that, they are all well priced for quality parametric models.

Re: Problem with rendering

Anonymous — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:13:37 GMT

I don't get this..

I'm pretty shure I've got the library part fine.
I'm in the Library Manager, loading my library.

When the object is loaded, the materials don't aprear in the parameters.
A couple of times it've worked, then I see all the materials listed there.
But now it's not.

"Use Object's Materials" is check'd.
Use AC Material is not check'd.

And the material is set to "general".

ArchiCad clearly don't find the materials in the library, but why?
The library I'm trying with now, has only onw object, so there's no duplicates or such. Is it the name of the materials?
I havn't changed them.

I also read somewhere that I had to download a "goodie" named "3D Studio in". I didn't really get what this was, but I downloaded it and put it in the add-on's folder.

Anyone know whay I'm missing here?
I've downloaded lots of objects, and this happed with almost everyone of them.

Re: Problem with rendering

Anonymous — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:01:26 GMT

Reeves wrote:
I also read somewhere that I had to download a "goodie" named "3D Studio in".

This lets you import 3ds models. And will set the materials up for you. However the models usually have a huge polycount & don't look great in section & elevation. I'm picking most of the objects on archibase are made this way.

Re: Problem with rendering

Anonymous — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:54:27 GMT

Hi again!
I'm still having the same problem. And I just don't get why...

example: http://www.archibaseplanet.com/download/21804.html

I've been trying to use this cabinet. But the same thing happends.
Something is wrong. It still get's greyed out.
You may try to download it maby and see if it workes for you guys?

Three materials follows with the file:
"arch22_wood_011"
"BUCHENAT"
"Woods & Plastics.Finish Carpentry.Wood.White Ash"

And in the parameters Archi Cad lists up a lot of materials (see picture)

The materials is in the library and the library is reloaded and there's
no duplicates.
I've heard a lot of talk about the website I'm downloading from and you guys don't seem to like it very good. But I don't see why anyone would make a website and upload thousands of objects that don't work!?

Hm...

edit: By the way: I know the materials here is set to off, but it don't help if I set it to on. The object just gets a "lighter" grey tone after the rendring. But it's still grey...

Re: Problem with rendering

Thomas Holm — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:22:05 GMT

Seems like the object can't find the material it's looking for, then it falls back to "General" which is a grey default.

Try loading all the default libraries (those that were installed with your Archicad), then add this library with the Library Manager and Reload, Don't remove the standard libraries unless they cause trouble.

Re: Problem with rendering

David Maudlin — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:28:18 GMT

Reeves wrote:
... example: http://www.archibaseplanet.com/download/21804.html

I've been trying to use this cabinet. But the same thing happends.
Something is wrong. It still get's greyed out.
You may try to download it maby and see if it workes for you guys? ...

Reeves:

I took a quick look at this object. If you change the material name parameter to "On", then you can set the material here. The 3D Script has material definitions, but I don't see where these definitions use the jpg files included with the download. I would simply create your own materials using these jpgs if you wish, then use the material parameters in the part to assign them as you desire.

You should add a Signature to your Profile (click the Profile button near the top of this page) with your ArchiCAD version and operating system (see mine for an example) for more accurate help in this forum.

David

Re: Problem with rendering

Anonymous — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:14:55 GMT

Thaks for the help David!
That was a good tip, I didn't think of that.
So now I've changed the materials and it workes great
But still, it's enoying that I can't use the materials from the download.
I've also downloaded some people, and I can't use the AC materials in such an object. (because of hair, eyes, skin etc..)'
And I've downloaded sofa's and such with special fabricks..

I hope I will figure this out somehow.. Some objects work tho!

ps: I've edited my signature David 😉

Re: Problem with rendering

Anonymous — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:12:42 GMT

Can the problem be that a lot of these objects are 3ds and not gdl?
3ds is for 3D Studio Max right?

If that's the case, why does archibaseplanet use this type of file?

Re: Problem with rendering

Anonymous — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:23:39 GMT

Reeves wrote:
Can the problem be that a lot of these objects are 3ds and not gdl?
3ds is for 3D Studio Max right?

Yes 3ds is the format used be 3D studio max.
Archibase mainly convert their models from 3DS models because it is easy (using the 3ds converter plugin) and they are giving them away for free.
They are never going to be as good as a native written parametric GDL object.

Re: Problem with rendering

David Maudlin — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:06:13 GMT

Reeves wrote:
But still, it's enoying that I can't use the materials from the download.

You can use the jpg files included with the download by assigning them to the materials used in the object. Search the ArchiCAD Help files for "texture" for more information. The textures only show in the 3D Window when set to Open GL, and photorenderings.

Reeves wrote:
ps: I've edited my signature David 😉

Beautiful

David

Re: Problem with rendering

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:25:29 GMT

Thanks sdb

David wrote:
You can use the jpg files included with the download by assigning them to the materials used in the object. Search the ArchiCAD Help files for "texture" for more information. The textures only show in the 3D Window when set to Open GL, and photorenderings.
David

Ah, smart. That worked great
This, of course takes some time, but anyway..
Thank you for the help David!