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Anonymous — Thu, 11 May 2023 11:08:46 GMT

This is the courtyard entering a dentist office I have just finished. Let me know what I can do to make it better. I used Artlantis 2.0, and a couple of touchups in Lightroom.

Justin

Re: Critiques Wanted Please!

Dwight — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:47:22 GMT

excellent job.

which bushes?

Re: Critiques Wanted Please!

Anonymous — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:58:31 GMT

Thanks Dwight! Coming from you that means a lot. The bushes are from the Onyx broadleaf libray, along with the leaves. The rest of the trees are VB Visual.

Justin

Re: Critiques Wanted Please!

Dwight — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:55:36 GMT

That Artlantis is becoming fun, but the foliage CAN be a challenge. As realism increases, entourage becomes even more important.

Your control over the luminous blue is what i like, here.

BTW: Everyone here who wants to make better rendering should have at least moved to Artlantis 2 or Cinema by now..

Re: Critiques Wanted Please!

Anonymous — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:28:38 GMT

I have a copy of C4D 10.5 but never could get a grasp on it. Artlantis is a lot more fun because it's interface is very "user freindly", and the results are rather pleasing.

BTW: Everyone here who wants to make better rendering should have at least moved to Artlantis 2 or Cinema by now..

I agree! Artlantis is or should be the industry standard.

Justin

Re: Critiques Wanted Please!

Anonymous — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:54:28 GMT

I've been happy with Lightworks so far but what A difference with the nice (and fast !) results I get with Artlantis Studio. No need for improved render capabilities within ArchiCAD if this cheap and specialised software is around...

Justin, very nice render indeed.

Dwight, in wich way your book will be different from the one available through Abvent and do you have a release date?

Re: Critiques Wanted Please!

Anonymous — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:44:19 GMT

Just finished an interior rendering. Comments and critiques wanted!

Justin

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Dwight — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:56:20 GMT

1: SUBJECT: My book is modern - addressing Artlantis 2, in which there are substantial improvements. It has been pre-ordered in a large quantity by Abvent. I am the man.

2: COMPREHENSIVE: My book will be good, in that it provides actual solutions to problems that architects have rather than a mere rehash of functions. So if my book had a sub-sub title, it would be "One Book to Rule Them All."

3: COLOR: My book is in color. Imagine communicating about something subtle like color values and luminosity - the things that make Artlantis great - using murky shades of grey.

4: READABILITY: My project is written in readable, engaging English, not translated with a lot of extraneous words from Italian. Not that when the Italian Palladio experts came to Vancouver last winter and lectured the architects here all day with simultaneous translation, I didn't expand my vocabulary.

5: STYLE: "The Artlantis Attitude" grabs the idea of rendering and streamlines it for architects. I actually use this program daily to refine my public art proposals, so I'm aware of what you need to communicate design, whether Photoreal or PhotoSketch or PhotoDream. Every book i read about rendering drives its pickup truck right into the ditch of obtuse geekspeak. Simple language spoke here.

6: PRAGMATICS: The ultimate PhotoReal work is still time consuming to achieve through setup and tweaking. Besides, most models lack the completeness to support this level of rendering without looking artificial and alienating. I am going to spend lots of time addressing how to optimally get the pretty bits out of Artlantis without getting mired in extremes. Artlantis 2 has artistic tools to tone down realism and hide model flaws. Getting art without breaking stride.

7: PHOTOSHOP: A piece on Photo editing. All illustrators use Photoshop to perk up their renderings. I know that it comes as a disappointment to hear that EVEN ARTLANTIS RENDERINGS NEED PHOTOSHOP, because even a fine rendering can always be Luminositized® with a gradient burn. This is easy in Photoshop because Artlantis exports a multi-layer document to Photoshop that has material ID coding to simplify selecting specific surfaces.

8: ONGOING SUPPORT: After primary release, buyers can subscribe to monthly lessons and updates. Issues will be addressed from the readership.

The way things are going, mid-October, if i stay out of jail. But i am already answering questions, taking pre-orders and topic suggestions at the address below. Already i have notable queries like "render beer in a glass." Must study subject closely now that summer is here. Making a Glistening Condensation Map today....

Attached is an afternoon sketch. It greatly encourages me to have pre-orders from the Archicad Talk Community, so please order now.

Re: Critiques Wanted Please!

Anonymous — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:54:55 GMT

Thank you for the quick response.
I don't have to consider, I will order.... that beer in a glass

Re: Critiques Wanted Please!

Karl Ottenstein — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:11:14 GMT

Dwight wrote:
So if my book had a sub-sub title, it would be "One Book to Rule Them All."

So, does that mean that we'll be calling the book 'my precious' and taking it everywhere with us ... and when it is inevitably time to recycle the book a few years from now, we'll have to journey to Mordor and Mount Doom?

K

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Karl Ottenstein — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:16:23 GMT

Colyer-Lloyd wrote:
Just finished an interior rendering. Comments and critiques wanted

Both very nice, Justin! The interior one feels like we're the janitor coming to clean on Saturday in spite of the excellent quality of space. Lack of interior entourage aside, I think the darkness at the receptionists desk makes the place feel 'closed'. Since I see that you have interior lights in that area, I wonder if this is a result of Artlantis 2's "automatic exposure" feature - which automatically darkens the scene to compensate for the daylight and vice versa?

For me, a magaine askew on a lobby seat, and a person, reasonably lit, and with a phone, computer, etc at the desk would 'make' the scene.

Very good work!

Karl

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Dwight — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:23:27 GMT

Karl wrote:
Dwight wrote:
So if my book had a sub-sub title, it would be "One Book to Rule Them All."
So, does that mean that we'll be calling the book 'my precious' and taking it everywhere with us ... and when it is inevitably time to recycle the book a few years from now, we'll have to journey to Mordor and Mount Doom?

Kermul

Haha. It is an electronic book - a screen coach - meant to sit on screen next to your Artlantis dialogs. I plan to continuously update and expand it to prevent the kind of obsolescence printed books experience. Artlantis is being rapidly developed and I don't want my readers to fall behind.

As for Mordor and Mount Doom… you are making an obtuse reference to Revit, aren't you?

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Thomas Holm — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:26:16 GMT

Karl wrote:
we'll have to journey to Mordor and Mount Doom

And no doubt kill an overwhelming army of orchs too... Perhaps I'd better not buy this book 😉

Re: Critiques Wanted Please!

Thomas Holm — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:31:13 GMT

Colyer-Lloyd wrote:
Just finished an interior rendering. Comments and critiques wanted!

The flower pot needs water... And in these energy-conscious times, perhaps you should turn off the ceiling lights too...
This one is really outstanding!

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Anonymous — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 04:09:55 GMT

Ahh Dwight, be wary of criticising your Revit bretheren with references to Mordor - after all they are potential customers!

(or maybe I should say "were potential customers" now that Revit has a new rendering engine....mutter mutter mutter.....?)

Re: Critiques Wanted Please!

Dwight — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 04:29:03 GMT

Rendering quality of built-in renderers aside, anyone wants Artlantis for a number of reasons that aren't superficially apparent:

• fast.
• largely self-controlled, unlike impossible-to-control Graphisoft implementation of LightWorks.
• very accurate preview.
• excellent animation camera control with auto-accelerate/decelerate.
• new "postcard" feature allows quick complete scheme material changes and automatically mails your rendering to Mom so she can see how well you are doing in your new job so far away from home so there will be no complaints that you never write.
• Artlantis 3 to have "phone call" feature so on days you lack artistic inspiration, you can simply "phone in" your illustration work. It picks the viewpoint and materials AND also CALLS Mom for you so there will be no complaints that you never call.

The big market for this renderer is SketchUp, and anyone else who wants to make great art without breaking stride.

Re: Critiques Wanted Please!

Karl Ottenstein — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:52:32 GMT

Dwight wrote:
• very accurate preview.

...except with respect to neon shaders which do not preview even close to how they will render, but they are working on that...

Karl

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Dwight — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:07:42 GMT

Neon very frustrating, thank you for reminding - I have been looking at it so long i forgot. Tiny "Render Zone" option an excellent compromise.

Re: Critiques Wanted Please!

Anonymous — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:25:28 GMT

Thanks all for the overwhelming responses!

I am in the process of tweaking the interior rendering with the suggestions of entourage, as well as some material changes. I look forward to hearing your comments.

Justin

Re: Critiques Wanted Please!

Dwight — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:45:36 GMT

It is just such a relief to see something nice from the get-go for once, altho it bears observing that this nice product was after two days of tweaking materials....