topic Re: Comments please in Visualization

Comments please

Anonymous — Thu, 11 May 2023 11:42:09 GMT

Here is a rendering that I have finished in Photoshop. I'm very happy with it but I'm after comments on how I can improve it,

Thanks

Re: Comments please

Dwight — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 08:53:32 GMT

For what it is, this is pretty good. White walls and grey roofing challenge the artist.

You've made the color and exposure values quite appropriate and have eliminated the sense of blackness so prevalent on intensely lit scenes like this. It feels like an afternoon in a parched country… but with good lawn irrigation!

Without sounding neurotic, I worry that the foreground tree branch is falling on the building - this needs to be more stable in the composition.

Lastly, compositionally: and this is a personal bias. There is no way for viewers to project themselves into the scene. You've made a barrier to the eye accessing the entrance and seeing a way into the building. We must hop the shrubbery. I feel like a burglar casing a joint. Hope they have their new Mac Pro with the 16GB of 800 mhz DDR RAM bolted down because i plan to nick it. Which window should we put the boots to while standing on the porch?

I personally object to more-or-less equal angle vanishing points - like you have done, because they are ambiguous. I'd like to see you bias the composition by moving the camera location toward the left. This will emphasize the entry and still communicate all of the other design elements.

You work in Archicad 9? If not, replace your sun object with the internal Realistic sun for soft shadows.

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Anonymous — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 23:55:48 GMT

Thanks for the comments Dwight, really helpfull. Couldn't have done any of this without your book.
I know the grass looks real but its actually fake. Tee hee hee. There is an old shed out the back which is used as an office and thats where they keep all the Mac Pros with 16GB of 800 mhz DDR RAM, no lock either, fancy that.

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Dwight — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 00:02:21 GMT

I have read between the lines to divine that you are a PC guy.

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Anonymous — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 00:29:33 GMT

Well divined. Don't have a clue about Macs. Have heard so many good things about them and would like to try one but the support is very limited where I come from.
I have a quad core 2.4 mhz, 3gig RAM, 160 gig HD, dual monitor. For the rendering in the above picture it took aboiut 3.5 hrs. I set the size by cm (it was 40x19 cm) and used 300dpi.

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Dwight — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 00:55:57 GMT

You consider the Capitol District the Outback then?

That seems like a long time for 2200x4800 pixels.
What render quality settings?
Refractive glass?

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Anonymous — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:05:05 GMT

Method - best
Antiliasing - best
Shadows - by lamp
Effects - reflection and smooth surface
Light source - ambient (100%) and lamps

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Dwight — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:10:35 GMT

Try this and see if it is a faster rendering:

Method: final
Antialiasing: One step down from "Best" AKA
"good enough for the girls we go with."

Light Source:

Eliminate Sun Object casting main shadow
Enable Sun:

Sun Class Sun Shader. default settings

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Anonymous — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:26:40 GMT

A couple of problems - as soon as I drop down the method and antiliasing I get a LOT of noise in the rendering to the point where it is unusable.
I have enabled sun and turned off the sun object, can't find these settings - Sun Class Sun Shader. default settings

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Dwight — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:37:07 GMT

What has happened is the noise is from inadequate ray tracing, either through a sky object set to realistic or a built-in sun set to realistic.

See the attached for your sun setting. Excuse the Mac interface.

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Anonymous — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 02:01:05 GMT

Wow, shows what you can do when you know what you are doing. The settings have gotten rid of the noise and its SOOOOO much quicker.
I know you are busy and your time in helping me is very appreciated.
Thankyou.

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Dwight — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 02:02:55 GMT

You didn't read your Archicad 10 supplement.

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Anonymous — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 02:04:44 GMT

Can't you tell?

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Dwight — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 02:09:02 GMT

Note the lack of a question mark at the end of my last post.

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Anonymous — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 02:13:14 GMT

ugh, heave, bend etc. (I'm bowing).

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Anonymous — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:22:59 GMT

Hey! Nice shrubbery work. I like the over all feel of the image rslt. And Dwight, thanks for that analysis on the shrubs creating some sort of barrier between the viewer and the point of interest.. I can see how this can affect composition.

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Dwight — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:52:46 GMT

It is ironic that so many of our colleagues seek the latest illumination buzzword software [watch for: "divine heavenly universal glowdiosity", coming soon in the radically new environment and object creation and rendering program "DeityWorks"] while being blissfully unaware of composition basics.

Every illustration tells a story. It just isn't enough to just get your object of design delight into the picture, it needs character and a theme.
Architecture has simple stories that basically involve capturing the eye and leading it to the building entry. Typical themes:
For a house: "Come and live here, in these swank rooms, you will find love and satisfaction."
For an office building: "Come and work here, in these swank open-but-acoustically-tempered office spaces, you will find prosperity and satisfaction"
For a view condo: "Come and live here, in these swank digs, you will find chicks/dudes/both and satisfaction."

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Anonymous — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 01:38:56 GMT

Composition is certainly something I will be working on. I havn't been using Archicad very long, so my time has been spent learning materials, lighting and printing.
I can see how the compositional side is lacking.
Thanks junior, bushes and 'landscaping' were all done in Photoshop.

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Anonymous — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 02:03:33 GMT

I had a feeling photoshop was involved I seriously need to get started on my PS training. ...DeityWorks