topic Re: Plastic white render in Visualization

Plastic white render

Anonymous — Thu, 11 May 2023 10:24:18 GMT

Hi!

Is there anyone who nows any thread about making plastic white renders where all materials are whitewhite but you want to have some shadows too feel a depth?

I put my ambient high high and have some lamps on 5-10 % effect but it feels too dark.

When the computer calculate the render it feels pretty white, but when it's ready all turn grey ???

Re: Plastic white render

Dwight — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:34:45 GMT

Try using colored light - yellow and blue tints.

Archicad will suppress glare so you'll need PHotoshop to adjust the relative values.

Re: Plastic white render

Anonymous — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:40:04 GMT

Dwight : thanks
But I finally find a way that works for me, need a few adjustment though. I am using sky-object or what the name is (I have swedish names on my objects) with high detaillevel or something like that. Then I put some 'ambient'lamps with low effect, about 10%. And then use a high value at ambient settings in rendersettings.
Then I apply a sketch render.

Critic?

Still to grey maybe?

Re: Plastic white render

Dwight — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:50:27 GMT

Architects have this problem that they think light is white.

THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS WHITE!!
[rehearsing for my lectures next week]

Humor me.

Make some yellow tint sun and blue tint sky and see if the effect is not more pleasing to the eye than this dead grey thing.

Re: Plastic white render

Anonymous — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 17:13:19 GMT

Dwight :
I know there isn't no such thing in real life, but on a white paper it is...
It shouldn't feel real, what I want is a sketchdrawing but with some shadows on it.
Like if I draw lines on a paper and then paint some soft shadoes, it's the feeling that I searching for.

I don't think yellow and blue would make it look like that?

Re: Plastic white render

Dwight — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 17:20:11 GMT

Grasshopper: you look but you do not see.

White things reflect the colors around them.

Try it. Just tints.

Your viewers will interpret what they see as white, but a colored environment will make the white seem lively, not dead and covered with crushed insects like it does now.

Re: Plastic white render

Anonymous — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 17:22:41 GMT

Ok, I'll try it and post it here when I'm ready, now movietime with my wife.

Re: Plastic white render

Anonymous — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 19:28:22 GMT

This proves Dwight's point:

http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=14980&start=10&sid=503aca44195672bcaa07e0bfa3269562

Re: Plastic white render

Anonymous — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 19:53:50 GMT

But I'm not after an render, I'm after a sketch to print to a paper to have it looked like a sketch, not a render... And I'm not sketching with yellow and blue lights, right? I want a clean sketch render with soft shadows and when I print it on a white paper, the lamp in my room should make the paper not look white..

But ok, here is almost the same with blue sky and yellow soft lamps..

Re: Plastic white render

Dwight — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:57:02 GMT

You would benefit from some simple Photoshop filtering in that case.

Re: Plastic white render

Thomas Holm — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:35:09 GMT

TurboGlider wrote:
But ok, here is almost the same with blue sky and yellow soft lamps..

Snyggt!

It IS more lively, but it's also less like the pencil sketch... It all depends on what you want.

Re: Plastic white render

Dwight — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:45:19 GMT

Let me mail you a pencil.

Re: Plastic white render

Anonymous — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 05:49:54 GMT

Yes, send me a pencil, my colleagues always takes mine.

But Dwight, does the second one look more like it should in your opinion? I haven't used the sun here (I think it gives ugly shadows when you have views like this, it would be nice with objects that hide lights but are 100% transparent to have sun effects at windows), only ambient lights (yellow) and skyobject(blue) and ambient render option (lighten up).

Re: Plastic white render

Dwight — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 06:04:56 GMT

The second one IS softer and more colorful, but you are still chicken with the tinting.

You can easily minimize sun shadow with a high angle diffuse realistic sun, but it is shadows that make modeled form look 3D.....

Re: Plastic white render

Anonymous — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 06:24:39 GMT

Dwight wrote:
The second one IS softer and more colorful, but you are still chicken with the tinting.

I need my english-book. I lost you with "still chicken with the tinting." Do you maybe mean the ambient lights I have used?

Dwight wrote:
You can easily minimize sun shadow with a high angle diffuse realistic sun, but it is shadows that make modeled form look 3D.....

I'll try with the sun and se if it's get better.

Thomas : Tackar, man försöker, vita renderingar som ska se skissade ut är svårt.

Re: Plastic white render

Dwight — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 06:28:49 GMT

chicken = coward

you are still chicken with the tinting =

you are still not making the color tints strong enough on your lights.

BTW: försöker looks like it should be on the list of banned words.

Re: Plastic white render

Thomas Holm — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 06:45:25 GMT

Turbo: Visst, men du gör det bra. Inte ofta man har tid.

Dwight: You need your Swedish-Book. "försöker" means "tries"

Re: Plastic white render

Anonymous — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 06:50:48 GMT

Dwight wrote:
chicken = coward

you are still chicken with the tinting =

you are still not making the color tints strong enough on your lights.

BTW: försöker looks like it should be on the list of banned words.

I know what a chicken is, but i didn't understand your combination of word. Some phrases that I don't heard before and only use a swedish-english book gives me lot of ??? in my head.

lol, no,
Tackar, man försöker, vita renderingar som ska se skissade ut är svårt.
tackar = thanks
man = man
försöker = try
vita = white
renderingar = renders
som = as
ska = should
se = look
skissade = sketchy / cartoon
ut = out
är = is
svårt = hard

thanks, man try, white renders as should look cartoon out is hard.

That is what you get if you hard-translated my swedish to english

Re: Plastic white render

Mats_Knutsson — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:14:07 GMT

TurboGlider wrote:
But I'm not after an render, I'm after a sketch to print to a paper to have it looked like a sketch, not a render... And I'm not sketching with yellow and blue lights, right? I want a clean sketch render with soft shadows and when I print it on a white paper, the lamp in my room should make the paper not look white..

But ok, here is almost the same with blue sky and yellow soft lamps..

Veri veri najs Turbo. Dis is reli good. Aj häv to traj dis ät hom äs väll.
svinglish får dö pipel!

Re: Plastic white render

Thomas Holm — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 13:41:12 GMT

The jokes are getting a bit internal . Maybe a Swedish section of the Pub would suit you? (I wouldn't be there, though - too bad beer)