topic Re: Twinmotion for 23 in Visualization

Twinmotion for 23

Barry Kelly — Thu, 11 May 2023 09:48:20 GMT

Has anyone heard any news as to when the free version of Twinmotion for Archicad 23 is going to be released?
I see the free current version (build 2019.6) availability time has been extended to 'Early 2020'.

Barry.

Re: Twinmotion for 23

Laszlo Nagy — Wed, 18 Dec 2019 11:53:09 GMT

This is what Epic Games said in their press release:

And finally, to cap off today’s news...
Twinmotion: extended free availability
Powered by Unreal Engine, Twinmotion is a highly intuitive, high-quality solution for fast and easy real-time visualization for architecture, construction, urban planning, and landscaping.

Previously, we’d announced that Twinmotion would remain free until November 2019; once downloaded, you can continue using the free version indefinitely. Today, we’re extending the free availability until our next release of Twinmotion, which is anticipated to ship in the first quarter of 2020. The new version will offer even greater photorealism, improved assets, tools to facilitate collaborative workflows, and more.

https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/blog/unreal-engine-4-24-to-ship-with-free-quixel-megascans-unreal-studio-features-and-more

Re: Twinmotion for 23

Anonymous — Fri, 10 Jan 2020 03:20:03 GMT

When will Twinmotion for Archicad 23 be released? Is that the question, because I'm already using Twinmotion in ArhiCAD23.

Side note . I'm a bit worried about how much Twinmotion will cost later. This has been the nature of companies such as Lumion and Enscape. They offer the product for free so it becomes part of your process and then they throw a monthly subscription at us. Make sense, because they need to get paid. The subscription then increases once in a while. Sigh.

Hopefully the relationship with Graphisoft allows users to use Twinmotion for free, similar to that of Cinerender. A bit unfortunate, but I personally think Graphisoft should just drop Cinerender. Not where rendering is heading.

Re: Twinmotion for 23

Rex Maximilian — Thu, 12 Mar 2020 01:45:59 GMT

Twinmotion 2020 has been announced and is ready for download... but only for purchase on their site. What is the process of upgrading via ArchiCAD 23's license? When I check for updates with the plugin, it says it's up-to-date with Twinmotion 2019.

Re: Twinmotion for 23

Rex Maximilian — Thu, 12 Mar 2020 01:55:22 GMT

Apparently the tabs need refreshing sometimes. Download both Twinmotion 2020.1 and the ArchiCAD plugins in the Epic Games Launcher.

Re: Twinmotion for 23

Barry Kelly — Thu, 12 Mar 2020 02:02:11 GMT

The problem I have is I had an e-mail to say ...

To install your copy of Twinmotion 2020, open the Epic Games launcher and log in with your Epic account. Select the Twinmotion page in the Unreal Engine tab, and click Install above Twinmotion 2020. Follow the prompts to complete the process.

I work for a largish builder that has it's own IT department.
Because the Epic Games Launcher is seen as gaming, it it not something we can access as it has been blocked.
I may be able to get it unblocked, but they may turn around and say no as it needs to be done on dozens of machines.
What I need is just an installer for Twin motion.
Is there any such thing?

I managed to install the free version some months ago before it was blocked.
But I can no longer access Epic Games Launcher to upgrade.

I will try contacting Twinmotion to see what they say.

Barry.

Re: Twinmotion for 23

Lingwisyer — Thu, 12 Mar 2020 06:06:46 GMT

Barry wrote:
they may turn around and say no as it needs to be done on dozens of machines

Wouldn't this kind of restriction be implemented via the network firewall rather than per computer? Even if it is per computer, if it is not part of the workplace policy setting that can be modified by the network manager, that would be odd...

Barry wrote:
What I need is just an installer for Twin motion.
Is there any such thing?

Doubt this would make any difference as with all these other game launchers, the launcher manages all of the licencing and updates, so the installer would probably end up launching the same problematic launcher...

Re: Twinmotion for 23

Barry Kelly — Thu, 12 Mar 2020 06:14:12 GMT

Lingwisyer wrote:

Barry wrote:
What I need is just an installer for Twin motion.
Is there any such thing?

Doubt this would make any difference as with all these other game launchers, the launcher manages all of the licencing and updates, so the installer would probably end up launching the same problematic launcher...

Yes, I notice in Twinmotion menus there are no options to check for updates.
It is all controlled through the launcher.

At the moment I can't even get to the Twinmotion forums as it too is being blocked by our IT system.

It is going o be a real pain to have to install EGL and then install TM through that on 50+ machines.

Barry.

Re: Twinmotion for 23

Barry Kelly — Thu, 12 Mar 2020 06:17:48 GMT

Lingwisyer wrote:

Barry wrote:
they may turn around and say no as it needs to be done on dozens of machines

Wouldn't this kind of restriction be implemented via the network firewall rather than per computer? Even if it is per computer, if it is not part of the workplace policy setting that can be modified by the network manager, that would be odd...

Yes it would be a network setting.
But to allow it on my 50+ drafting machines, they will have to allow it on the 500+ other machines in our system.
They are looking at what can be done.

Barry.

Re: Twinmotion for 23

Lingwisyer — Thu, 12 Mar 2020 06:20:23 GMT

Barry wrote:
It is going o be a real pain to have to install EGL and then install TM through that on 50+ machines.

Use Windows Server Update Services or something similar to deploy it over the network? That will not help with user credentials when it actually comes to using it though...

Barry wrote:
But to allow it on my 50+ drafting machines, they will have to allow it on the 500+ other machines in our system.

Fair enough, wanting to not make it a global change.

Ling.

Re: Twinmotion for 23

Jp1138 — Thu, 12 Mar 2020 16:15:09 GMT

Hmm, it seems the program is free for everyone that downloaded the also free 2019 version of Twinmotion, so the free for all Archicad 23 users wasn´t such a big deal after all

Re: Twinmotion for 23

Richard Morrison — Sun, 15 Mar 2020 21:01:55 GMT

Also, I thought this was supposed to have real-time raytracing, which it doesn't. Granted, there are many improvements, but I think it was made pretty clear at last year's Las Vegas AIA convention that RT raytracing was going to be there. Nothing from GS on this?

Re: Twinmotion for 23

Karl Ottenstein — Sun, 15 Mar 2020 22:32:55 GMT

Richard wrote:
Also, I thought this was supposed to have real-time raytracing, which it doesn't. Granted, there are many improvements, but I think it was made pretty clear at last year's Las Vegas AIA convention that RT raytracing was going to be there. Nothing from GS on this?

Agree, this seems pretty weird given the promises made and the video shown of what to expect. Equally odd is that there has been no direct email from either Graphisoft or Epic about the availability of 2020 vs the promised features - yet it 2020 is available for download with (very limited) info on the Epic web site.

Re: Twinmotion for 23

Barry Kelly — Mon, 16 Mar 2020 01:05:25 GMT

I am hoping that GS will notify us about TM2020, and provide us with an easier way to install it.
I am dreading that I will have to install Epic Games Launcher on 50+ machines and then individually download and install TW through EGL.
It took me about 3 hours to install it on my machine last week.
Maybe longer, as I just turned of the monitor an went home and let it do its thing.
I really would like a simple installation file that I can download once and distribute to all my machines.

Barry.

Re: Twinmotion for 23

rm — Mon, 16 Mar 2020 18:12:55 GMT

Rex -

Do you know if you also need to update to the Unreal Engine 4.24.3 to run TM 202.1?

Im not clear if the two run independently, together or if the components of the Unreal Engine that are used are baked into TM.

Thanks!

Rex wrote:
Apparently the tabs need refreshing sometimes. Download both Twinmotion 2020.1 and the ArchiCAD plugins in the Epic Games Launcher.

Re: Twinmotion for 23

Karl Ottenstein — Mon, 16 Mar 2020 23:02:12 GMT

rm wrote:

Do you know if you also need to update to the Unreal Engine 4.24.3 to run TM 202.1?

No, we do not need to download the Unreal Engine. That info is buried in the TwinMotion FAQs, but the stupid Epic Games Launcher has that huge 'download Unreal Engine' button, giving one more reason why that is the dumbest way for us to download a standalone product (TwinMotion).

(While I'm ranting about Epic: if you had downloaded TwinMotion 2019, you would see that every update was a full over-a-GB download, rather than an update patch like most other software. I'm on a super slow internet connection - and I know that some of our users around the world are on data-capped connections as well. Epic has got to figure out how to update their software in a way that doesn't require a full download other than for a release upgrade such as this 2020 one.)

<end answer / rant > 🙂

Re: Twinmotion for 23

rm — Tue, 17 Mar 2020 20:41:43 GMT

Karl -

Wondering if I am missing something here relative to the updated libraries of textures and objects within TM 2020. I was under the impression since Epic bought Quixel, that the available libraries were going to be significantly better.

Seems like TM 2020 added better, not great trees, some additional textures, mostly tropical ground cover and cars that look made up instead of real models.

Seems to me Lumion, aside from the fact that it works only on Windows has a significantly better library of assets.

Re: Twinmotion for 23

Karl Ottenstein — Tue, 17 Mar 2020 21:40:10 GMT

Re: Asset library update / quality -

I don't know, Robert. (I've not downloaded 2020 yet as I have to do it overnight because of the size and my slow internet and keep forgetting to start it.)

Maybe someone else can share some insight?

Re: Twinmotion for 23

Lingwisyer — Wed, 18 Mar 2020 01:44:31 GMT

Someone posted a tutorial regarding Quixel assets and TM on Youtube last year utilising Quixel Bridge. There was a comment about trouble regarding plants though...

Hopefully Epic will find a way to integrate the UE Marketplace into TW at some point.

Ling.

Re: Twinmotion for 23

rm — Wed, 18 Mar 2020 03:24:40 GMT

Ling -

So Im not looking at this wrong! In my mind, the improvements in TM 2020 are only evolutionary, not at all revolutionary compared to Lumion.

Lumions library assets at this time are far superior than those offered in TM. Interface regularly gets “hung-up”. Skys are no where near as good as Lumion. Mapping grass or ground covering TM often bleeds past edges and its not easy to control.

TM causes the fans on both my all my Macs to constantly run at full speed because of the frame rate - you don't need a high frame rate for single view renderings.

In my opinion, the low cost to get into TM, if you buy it, is because Epic Games knows this is just a paid Beta, that is not ready for prime time!

Lingwisyer wrote:
Someone posted a tutorial regarding Quixel assets and TM on Youtube last year utilising Quixel Bridge. There was a comment about trouble regarding plants though...

Hopefully Epic will find a way to integrate the UE Marketplace into TW at some point.

Ling.