topic Re: Another try in v-ray... in Visualization

Another try in v-ray...

Anonymous — Thu, 11 May 2023 10:28:45 GMT

Hello, this is my second render in ArchiCAD + 3d max. I would like to hear your opinions about it. Render time: about 30 min...

Re: Another try in v-ray...

TomWaltz — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:40:58 GMT

WOW, that's red!

Re: Another try in v-ray...

Anonymous — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:57:00 GMT

I am "only" 16... I tried to experiment with colours
What do you think about quality of the image?

Re: Another try in v-ray...

Anonymous — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 21:45:19 GMT

Since you are 16, you know you could do better. Give it some tweeks and post your results.

Re: Another try in v-ray...

Anonymous — Tue, 12 Dec 2006 06:26:36 GMT

What mean: give it some "tweeks"???

Re: Another try in v-ray...

Anonymous — Tue, 12 Dec 2006 06:48:22 GMT

O.K., just things like the window, I haven't seen an over-exposure like that since the Bikini Atol. The chair is,... looking kinda uncomfortable - find another one. Fix the black wall section, and you could tone down the iPod red wall. Add a base board, since we are concentrating on the wall corner. Maybe sneak in a wall outlet for added detail. Be proud, working v-ray is a technical challenge. Tweek, render test, tweek, render test, etc.

Re: Another try in v-ray...

Thomas Holm — Tue, 12 Dec 2006 09:58:16 GMT

WhiteMan wrote:
I am "only" 16... I tried to experiment with colours
What do you think about quality of the image?

Hey, don't listen to the old guys here. I think your image looks very good. Nice shadows, good chrome, good glass, and good rendering of the wooden floor. But if you try to reproduce it in the real world, you might find it hard to get wall paint with that intense red. Car paint, OK, but wall... But my son has tried to achieve something similar iin his room, black 'n all.

And the window looks burnt out/overexposed just like it would if you were using a camera with film. Very realistic, but perhaps not useful if you want to show the whole scene. In movies, they put an orange filter over the whole window pane. In rendering, we nee to use other tricks.

I think this is very good if it's your second attempt!

Re: Another try in v-ray...

Anonymous — Tue, 12 Dec 2006 14:57:30 GMT

switch the "window light" to "not visible"!

Re: Another try in v-ray...

Richard Morrison — Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:15:36 GMT

WhiteMan wrote:
What mean: give it some "tweeks"???

"Tweeks" (or tweaks, if spelled correctly) = small adjustments

Actually this is a colloquial usage of an already colloquial word meaning "pinch." I would hate to be a non-native English speaker on this forum.

Re: Another try in v-ray...

Anonymous — Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:49:15 GMT

Oh
I will try with invisible light...
Soon, I will post some updates...

Re: Another try in v-ray...

Dwight — Tue, 12 Dec 2006 18:23:42 GMT

Thomas wrote:
In movies, they put an orange filter over the whole window pane.

The reason that the movie people put the orange film over windows during daylight hours is for color balance, not exposure. Since their floodlights are tungsten-based, emitting yellowish light, and movie film is adjusted accordingly, the blueness of daylight must be warmed by the orange filter for the outdoors to look realistic.

This is also evident in daylight type film where an orange filter is placed in the film emulsion - that's why negatives are orange.

Things are changing. There are new movie lights that emit daylight color lighting - hi-frequency fluorescent lights that don't flicker on camera. No more orange windows....

For example: http://www.kinoflo.com/

Re: Another try in v-ray...

Anonymous — Tue, 12 Dec 2006 18:26:17 GMT

I am quite corrected, a tweek is a sound made by a bird perhaps. The blush is mine

Re: Another try in v-ray...

Thomas Holm — Tue, 12 Dec 2006 19:34:31 GMT

Dwight wrote:
The reason that the movie people put the orange film over windows during daylight hours is for color balance, not exposure.

I know... I forgot to mention the gray filter to reduce glare... You can't be perfect all the time...

Re: Another try in v-ray...

Dwight — Tue, 12 Dec 2006 19:37:14 GMT

We just don't want to see newguy renderings with orange glass lessn' its a coffee house with a '70's theme.

A good point, the grey glass. Looking from inside at modern windows with special internal laminations and gas filled cores, the glass seems way less transparent in cold climates. An almost "Suckoutyereyeballs" feeling.

Re: Another try in v-ray...

Anonymous — Tue, 12 Dec 2006 20:24:58 GMT

Burginger wrote:
I am quite corrected, a tweek is a sound made by a bird perhaps. The blush is mine

That would be a "tweet" wouldn't it?

Re: Another try in v-ray...

Dwight — Tue, 12 Dec 2006 20:31:40 GMT

Not too much drama in it.
The modern Sylvester would be able to sneak up on Tweaky Bird because he was focused on his keyboard.

(ominous music builds)

Sylvester the cat rounds the corner pressed low to the floor.
He sees Tweaky Bird silhouetted in the light radiating from Tweaky's display.
Empty bird seed boxes and cola tins are scattered around his chair.

Tweaky: "Just want to get that light cone down adjusted perfect. AAArgh!"

Re: Another try in v-ray...

Anonymous — Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:22:55 GMT

Little update, what do you think?

Re: Another try in v-ray...

Richard Morrison — Tue, 12 Dec 2006 22:18:05 GMT

HUGE improvement! (Although I would be very impressed if you could get that degree of color saturation in reality.) If you're going for photorealism, you might want to de-saturate the red wall a little bit.

Re: Another try in v-ray...

Anonymous — Tue, 12 Dec 2006 22:23:16 GMT

I like it. I have a similar red on a feature wall in my home.

Amazing how much difference changing the over-exposed window made. I'm not totally sold on the background image used, but a big improvement.

Re: Another try in v-ray...

Dwight — Tue, 12 Dec 2006 22:32:09 GMT

Richard wrote:
HUGE improvement! (Although I would be very impressed if you could get that degree of color saturation in reality.)

I'm programming this today. Red enough for you?