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WHICH PHOTOSHOP

Anonymous — Thu, 11 May 2023 11:44:47 GMT

I AM IN THE PROCESS OF DOING A 1/2 YEAR COURSE IN PHOTOSHOP TO TOUCH UP MY ARCHICAD RENDERINGS & POSSIBLY DO MORE HIGH END PRESENTATION WORK.

MY QUESTION IS - WHICH PHOTOSHOP SHOULD I USE AT THE END OF THE DAY? THERE ARE A HALF DOZEN OR SO TO CHOOSE FROM WITH VARYING DEGREES OF CAPABILITY.

I LIKE TO KNOCK UP A HIGH DEGREE OF PRESENTATION WORK, BUT THE INFO ON THE BACK OF THE BOXES DOES NOT GIVE ANYWHERE NEAR THE INDICATION OF WHAT EACH PARTICULAR VERSION CAN DO. AND WE ALL KNOW THAT ONLY AFTER A COUPLE OF YEARS OF WORKING WITH ANY S/W DO YOU BEGIN TO FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT PACKAGE CAN AND CANNOT DO.

THE PRICES RANGE FROM ABOUT $200 - $1,800

I DON'T MIND PAYING IF IT IS WORTH IT (IE ARCHICAD!), HOWEVER I DON'T WANT TO PURCHASE TOO HIGH END A VERSION IF HALF OF IT WILL NEVER BE USED.

DWIGHT, ANY CLUES? PS - I BOUGHT YOUR BOOK ON RENDERING IN AC!

Re: WHICH PHOTOSHOP

Anonymous — Mon, 27 Feb 2006 13:49:19 GMT

now that I'm deaf... 😉 what OS are you using? if Mac, prolly wait until Adobe comes up with the Universal Binary version, so it will work right on any new hardware you purchase. Not sure - perhaps they have an automatic update program in effect for this if you buy now (worth looking into).

We're happy with the version that comes in the Creative Suite.

Wes

Re: WHICH PHOTOSHOP

Anonymous — Mon, 27 Feb 2006 15:55:35 GMT

I may be wrong, but I think there are just 2 versions - the standard version (currently CS2) or the basic version (Elements.)

After using standard Photoshop for years, I'm having to use Elements in my current office, and now and then I find it quite restricting - particularly in creating and saving work paths. However we only have Elements version 1 (it's up to version 4 now), so the newer versions may be improved.

The best thing to do would be download a free 30 day trial of each version from adobe and give it a whirl...

Re: WHICH PHOTOSHOP

TomWaltz — Mon, 27 Feb 2006 16:13:00 GMT

I use Elements for most things. My understanding is that the biggest limitations is in its pre-press color separation capabilities.

For my purposes, the $100 price tag was much more acceptable (especially after dropping $2500 on Cinema 4D's full suite and $4500 on a new G5 & monitor)

Re: WHICH PHOTOSHOP

Rakela Raul — Mon, 27 Feb 2006 17:06:28 GMT

im gonna love the conclusion for this question !!
i have bought photoimpact, photopaint shop pro, ph sh elements, photoshop cs, miguel's free softwares and more.
for some reasons i keep coming back to photoshop 7..i dont remember the why's

Re: WHICH PHOTOSHOP

stefan — Mon, 27 Feb 2006 21:08:08 GMT

Start with Photoshop Elements and upgrade to the full software if needed for the work you do. Elements is quite good (I have version 2) but full Photoshop is obviously more complete (I have version 7 at work).

Re: WHICH PHOTOSHOP

Anonymous — Mon, 27 Feb 2006 23:10:55 GMT

Elements (previously Photoshop LE) is good for a lot of stuff and is all some people ever need, but of course full Photoshop has the powertools pros rely on and they become quickly essential once you know them.

If you are on a Mac, it's also worth checking out Graphic Converter. It's not really a Photoshop replacement, but it can do a lot of the things most people use Photoshop for. It can also open and save just about every image file format ever created (including Atari Portfolio Bitmap) and it can do bulk conversions very easily. There's a slide show feature which I like and lots more. It's one of the best pieces of share ware ever created.

Re: WHICH PHOTOSHOP

Anonymous — Fri, 24 Mar 2006 04:13:24 GMT

Does anyone out there use Paint Shop Pro X rather than Photoshop? At only $100 it seems like a bargain (against $649 for Photoshop). Is there anything that PSP doesn't do that you need for image retouching and compositing? Can anyone provide a comparison of the two?

Thanks

Re: WHICH PHOTOSHOP

stefan — Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:52:29 GMT

In 3D World, they described in the review of Paintshop Pro that it was a valid Photoshop replacement, except for the handling of alpha-channels. But the latest version was improved on that aspect.

So it seems to be a valid choice. But remember that at 100$ you have the same price as Photoshop Elements, which is something you should look at. I believe there are trials available for all these programs.

Re: WHICH PHOTOSHOP

Anonymous — Sun, 26 Mar 2006 22:14:12 GMT

I gather that Photoshop Elements is a very basic version, that wouldn't necessarily have enough tools to do the jobs required for architectural illustrations. Great for Granny putting her photo album of the grandkiddies together though.

Re: WHICH PHOTOSHOP

__archiben — Sun, 26 Mar 2006 23:29:53 GMT

s2art wrote:
I gather that Photoshop Elements is a very basic version, that wouldn't necessarily have enough tools to do the jobs required for architectural illustrations. Great for Granny putting her photo album of the grandkiddies together though.

actually no. 'elements' still has many of photoshop's powerful tools - more than enough for the average user and probably far more than granny would need.

i gather you've not used it?

~/archiben

Re: WHICH PHOTOSHOP

Anonymous — Mon, 27 Mar 2006 00:34:07 GMT

You gather correct, I'm just going on what I have been told by others in the industry.

Re: WHICH PHOTOSHOP

stefan — Mon, 27 Mar 2006 06:34:21 GMT

Photoshop Elements misses CMYK, which is what professional DTP people require, but I doubt that many architects need this.

It has very usable selection, layers etc... although it misses some of the more advanced parametric layer settings. But I also doubt that many fulltime architects will miss this much. I know I haven't noticed many of the limitations, apart from some of the text-tools. Text layers stay parametric, but the Layer Styles are based on presets and not on fully parametric editable settings.

Re: WHICH PHOTOSHOP

Dwight — Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:08:28 GMT

Here's a review of the latest Photoshop Elements:

http://www.macworld.com/2006/03/reviews/pshelements4/index.php?lsrc=mwweek-0327

Re: WHICH PHOTOSHOP

Karl Ottenstein — Mon, 27 Mar 2006 20:07:13 GMT

Elements and other Adobe software is available for download with free 30 day trial. Street price for Elements is around $60 and upgrade price is even lower.

Karl

Re: WHICH PHOTOSHOP

Dwight — Mon, 27 Mar 2006 20:14:40 GMT

There's only one trick in my book that specifically uses the CMYK mode:

to reduce overprinted blackness (K=knockout) by reducing the black ink component of the image, restoring luminosity to the other inks.

In my seminar, I show a facsimilie of that technique in the RGB mode for users of Photoshop Elements.

Considering the price and the new features revealed by reading the review, Elements looks pretty good for ArchiCAD users.

Re: WHICH PHOTOSHOP

Jefferson — Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:32:25 GMT

Looks like a "register-able" version of 7 can be had for pretty not much more than Elements at the big garage sale [EBay]. Probably more than you need but when you want it.............think of it like RAM.

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&from=R10&catref=C12&satitle=photoshop+7+full+version&sacat=18793%26catref%3DC6&bs=Search&fsop=3%26fsoo%3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp=&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&sadis=200&fpos=98236&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=